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From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:53:55 +0200
Date: 2006-04-16T22:53:37+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145220834.9496.56.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2429o5my9o4z.lue7cfjzu0nd$.dlg@40tude.net>

On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 19:59 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> >>Public involvement destroys quality and even common sense. [...]
> > pop-culture /= Public involvement,
> Public involvement is the driving force behind the pop-culture.

Do you mean "mass consumption" when you speak of public involvement?


> > and open source does
> > not imply absence of project rules. 
> > Open source software does not by itself define how a project
> > is run, obviously.
> 
> Exactly

So you agree that software quality, as affected by project
procedures, is orthogonal to open/closed source?


> >> They could become managers,
> >> advocates instead.
> > 
> > Could you elaborate a bit how they could do this, and why they
> > would want to do this?
> 
> Why shouldn't they? People adapt quickly. Their goals are formed by the
> society.

Who is society, then? And who forms the goals, as you say?


> Not wages, but differentiation of according to individual contribution.

And you think that you attract the best programmers by offering
high wages? That, together with meritocracy, has been shown
to be a myth. Job satisfaction is not guaranteed by just income.
The fact that SU professions in high regard could but
achieve a depressingly low standard income has not exactly
turned a physician into someone without education, knowledge,
and practice, has it? OTOH, with not much more than a little
cleverness, and overcoming certain scrupulous habits, you can
become fairly rich, in spite of producing mostly low quality crap...
So how is quality related to differentiation (and selection)
by income?

What are the software quality improvements to be derived
from differentiation by income? (Which I have nothing to say
against.) If you starve, you can't be productive, o.K..
But other than that, job satisfaction is not just money.






  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-16 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-01 13:47 Any way of persuading GNAT/GCC to implement a true overlay and not a pointer? Doobs
2006-04-01 14:33 ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-04-01 16:52   ` Doobs
2006-04-01 17:56     ` Martin Krischik
2006-04-01 18:04     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-01 17:08 ` Florian Weimer
2006-04-01 17:54   ` Doobs
2006-04-01 18:19     ` Doobs
2006-04-01 20:01       ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-04-01 21:33         ` Doobs
2006-04-03 12:25           ` Gerd
2006-04-01 20:57       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-04  1:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-10  1:42   ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-10 20:12     ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-11 13:54       ` Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how? Marc A. Criley
2006-04-11 15:13         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 16:22           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-11 17:56             ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 18:38               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 13:59                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 14:39                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-15 19:33                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 17:07                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-13  3:16                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 19:59               ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-11 20:18                 ` Ed Falis
2006-04-12 14:10                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 20:57                   ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-15 20:37                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-18  0:24                       ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-18 16:02                         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 19:27                 ` Martin Dowie
2006-04-12  8:32               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 11:23                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 15:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 17:11                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 19:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 21:56                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-13  9:17                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-13 14:18                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-14 10:01                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-14 12:55                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-15 10:13                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-15 18:07                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-13  2:58                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-13  9:17                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-15 21:17                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-16 10:53                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-16 13:03                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-16 17:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-16 20:53                             ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2006-04-17  9:16                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-19 20:38                                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-20 18:01                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-18  0:29                             ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-16 14:55                         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-16 17:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-19 18:17                             ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-20 18:07                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-11 15:34         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12  2:59         ` Steve
2006-04-13  7:41         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2006-04-13 13:18           ` Marc A. Criley
2006-04-13 13:35             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-13 13:57             ` Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-13 19:37               ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-13 21:02                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-14  2:49                   ` Justin Gombos
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