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From: "Jeff Carter" <jcgoogle@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Half Constrained Array Types and Slices
Date: 6 Mar 2006 09:50:16 -0800
Date: 2006-03-06T09:50:16-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1141667416.163432.304280@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wccacc7hzah.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>


Robert A Duff wrote:
>
> I don't know of any change between 83 and 95, here.
> But I could be forgetting something; please remind me.

I just checked my copy of the green book, and you're right. I seem to
recall some problem with slices of constrained types in Ada 83, but I
guess I'm mistaken.

> I'd also be happy to eliminate slices as l-values.  They cause a lot of
> implementation difficulty for not much benefit.  Or else go the whole
> hog, and allow X(5..10) := "xx", which does not work in Ada, because
> that would require changing the length of the whole thing.

What would that do?

> Yes, but this is all very not-Ada in several ways.
> There are probably some semantic anomalies I have not considered.

Of course, it's not-Ada by definition. But it's fun to talk about.

I've been thinking about a language that allows null arrays, even for
degenerate types like

type Single is (One);

type Degenerate is array (Single range <>) of Whatever;

Suppose we could say something like

V : Degenerate (null range); -- V'Length = 0

Now we can do things like

for I in V'range loop -- loop is not entered

if X in V'range -- always False

Y : Degenerate (V'range); -- Y'Length = 0

More importantly, we do these kinds of things in subprograms with
Degenerate parameters.

If Degenerate is a string type, "" is meaningful.

We seem to be fine as long as we don't do V'Last. I can't figure out
how such a language should handle 'First and 'Last for such a
value/object. Probably a failure of imagination on my part.

--
Jeff Carter

jrcarter commercial-at acm [period | full stop] org




  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-06 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-02  5:00 Half Constrained Array Types and Slices Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-03-02  8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-02 15:34   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-03-02 19:37     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-02 20:06   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-03-02 20:37     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-02 21:01     ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-02 20:40   ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-02 14:32 ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-03-02 20:08   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-03-02 20:48   ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-06  2:16     ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-03-06 18:50       ` Martin Krischik
2006-03-02 20:38 ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-03  5:15   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-03-03  8:57     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-03 23:41     ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-06 17:50       ` Jeff Carter [this message]
2006-03-06 18:31         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-07 19:02           ` Jeff Carter
2006-03-08 14:29             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-09 22:44               ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-10  8:46                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-06 19:49         ` Stefan Lucks
2006-03-08 17:36         ` brian.b.mcguinness
2006-03-08 17:56           ` Jeff Carter
2006-03-09 22:36         ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-10  4:28           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-03-10  8:46             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-10 17:33               ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-10 21:24                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-03-10 17:38             ` Robert A Duff
2006-03-11  0:19               ` Randy Brukardt
2006-03-11  1:43                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-03-11  8:38                   ` Niklas Holsti
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