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From: "Ludovic Brenta" <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades
Date: 5 Oct 2005 01:04:22 -0700
Date: 2005-10-05T01:04:22-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1128499462.850353.146890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a790c$4342e299$499532c$1080@ALLTEL.NET>

Marc A. Criley a écrit :

> (Hmm, this subject seems to have sputtered out, better get some
> gasoline... :-)
>
> I wrote to AdaCore to ask them what their maintenance and upgrade
> intentions were for the GNAT GPL Edition.
>
> I received a quite timely response that said their intent is to "[keep]
> this version roughly in sync with the latest GNAT Pro releases" and "in
> fact the latest GPL edition is more recent than the latest GNAT Pro
> official release, it corresponds to the more recent GNAT Pro Ada 2005 Beta".
>
> Maybe Ludovic should rerun his Debian survey?  Declining to include a
> maintained Ada development environment on a Linux distribution may be
> unwise...

I warned against this on several occasions, and urged respondents to
the survey to take all aspects into consideration.  I also said that
no matter what, GCC in Debian will never be as good as the GNAT GPL
Edition.  Also, packaging GNAT GPL 2005 Edition was my first intention
(per the Debian Ada Policy, which I'm in the process of updating).
This apparently has had little or no effect on the results.

OTOH, I wouldn't want to spend my time on packages that nobody uses.
Also, while the "selfish argument" has no effect on my decision[1],
I am sensitive to the "interoperability argument", which pleads in
favour of GCC.

As a heads-up: I have not yet started the transition, so it is still
time, if you wish, to cast more votes which perhaps will change the
outcome.  My plan is to wait for a month or so.  The gcc_4_1_branch
is due to be created in the coming days or weeks on gcc.gnu.org; I
feel confident that the corresponding Debian package will appear
soon thereafter in unstable or in experimental.  I will start the
transition when this happens.

[1] Quite to the contrary; the more I hear the "selfish argument",
the more I feel inclined to package GNAT GPL Edition, just to teach
selfish people that if they refuse to give, then they cannot take,
as Georg Bauhaus said so nicely.

-- 
Ludovic Brenta.




  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-05  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-04 20:15 GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05  8:04 ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2005-10-05  8:58   ` michael bode
2005-10-05  9:39   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 11:10     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 12:50       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 14:06         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 14:40           ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 15:38           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 16:22           ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2005-10-05 18:28           ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-10-13 21:13           ` wojtek
2005-10-05 14:06       ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-10-05 15:02         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 21:25       ` Björn Persson
2005-10-06  1:18       ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06  7:18         ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06  8:03         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-06  8:53         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-05 12:25   ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05 18:17   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-05 18:28     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-06 18:20       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-06 19:20         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-06 22:27         ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07  5:25           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-07  5:54             ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 18:43               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-08  6:18                 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 11:57             ` Simon Clubley
2005-10-07 12:29               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-07 12:50               ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-25 15:44                 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 16:35                   ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-26 13:43                     ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-25 20:47                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 21:13                     ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 22:29                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 22:41                         ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-26 10:53                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-26 10:12                     ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-27 11:02                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 13:39                         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-27 14:05                           ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 14:25                             ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 15:50                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 16:59                               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-27 17:09                                 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 17:33                                   ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 19:18                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 19:49                                     ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 19:14                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28  6:41                                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-30 14:17                                     ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-30 17:44                                       ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-30 19:53                                       ` Anh Vo
2005-10-28  5:10                         ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28 11:18                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28 11:47                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 12:34                               ` none
2005-10-28 12:35                               ` Emmanuel Briot
2005-10-28 12:35                               ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-28 14:14                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 21:35                               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-29 12:25                               ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-28  5:41                         ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28  8:38                           ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-28 10:20                             ` Niklas Holsti
2005-10-28 18:07                             ` Michael Bode
2005-10-31 14:58                             ` Marc A. Criley
2005-11-01 16:54                             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-01 16:40                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-02 16:15                                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-02 17:36                             ` Steffen Huber
2005-11-02 19:08                               ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-02 19:09                               ` Stefan Bellon
2005-10-28 18:52                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-02 21:14                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-07 23:11               ` Björn Persson
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