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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Copy vector in Ada
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 08:25:10 +0100
Date: 2012-11-04T08:25:10+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10y91ckm54l57$.8u8bbq342u1b.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6260a796-83c4-4ce5-88cb-8249846bc035@googlegroups.com

On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:57:28 -0700 (PDT), Maciej Sobczak wrote:

> No and I don't even intend to do it. Mixing assignment with polymorphism
> is evil and cannot be implemented reasonably anyway.

How so? Assignment is clearly a polymorphic operation.

> Note that Ada does not provide any universal solution to this problem,

Because it is a larger problem, which neither Ada nor C++ have a solution
for, multiple dispatch.

> either - assignment cannot be reasonably implemented apart from the case
> of matching tags,

You mean an implementation generated by the compiler? In such cases the
programmer must be required to override.

> Not much. In the case of derivation hierarchy, neither Ada nor C++ offer
> anything usefu

Yes

>l (and that's OK as the concept is broken anyway).

Concept of what? In C++ you can assign int to double. In Ada you can assign
Positive to Integer. Is this broken? You do want to assign semantically
same values of different types. That depends on the motivation why these
types were designed different. It is not always so, that they were in order
not to have assignments.

> C++ does
> provide a cleaner solution for the case of non-dispatching assignment.

I would not call it cleaner, but usable at least.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-04  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-31 16:26 Copy vector in Ada katolsster
2012-10-31 16:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-11-02 11:10   ` katarina.l.olsson
2012-11-02 11:19     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-02 22:03       ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-02 23:45         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03  0:15           ` Zhu, Qun-Ying
2012-11-03  3:47             ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-11-03 15:47               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03 14:34           ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-03 15:54             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03 16:03               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-03 21:57                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-04  7:25                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-11-04 20:49                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-05  8:31                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05  8:50                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-11-05  9:20                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 17:22                             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-05 18:42                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 20:18                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-05 20:33                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 21:34                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-05 23:45                                       ` Shark8
2012-11-05 23:58                                         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2012-11-06  2:17                                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-06  7:28                                             ` Types vs Subtypes (was: Re: Copy vector in Ada) Simon Wright
2012-11-06 11:33                                             ` Copy vector in Ada Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-06 19:47                                               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-06 19:53                                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-07 12:03                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-07 13:09                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-07 16:17                                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-07 16:11                                                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-07 18:06                                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-07 20:04                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-07 21:00                                                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-08  8:31                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-08  9:58                                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-08 14:28                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-11-05 16:30                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-11-02 14:10     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-11-02 15:28       ` Shark8
2012-11-09  6:22         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-11-19 22:37 ` Katarina Olsson
2012-11-19 22:39 ` Katarina Olsson
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