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From: Chris Humphries <chris@unixfu.net>
Subject: Re: GWindows and a future home for it
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:25:55 -0400
Date: 2004-10-01T12:25:55-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10lr18i6h426o82@news.supernews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <z1f7d.113$ae7.90@trndny07>

stephane richard wrote:
> "Marius Amado Alves" <amado.alves@netcabo.pt> wrote in message 
> news:mailman.146.1096645193.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org...
> 
>>>>>>Database support is essential. If Claw is weaker than GWindows on
>>>>>>database support, that is a major strike against it....
>>>>
>>>>Duh? Was the project not a GUI library? What that has to do with 
>>>>database?
>>>>
>>>>(Could not find the original post by Fionn apud Stephen)
>>>
>>>It was never just a GUI library problem - GWindows supplies both a GUI
>>>library and a databae library, and I need and use both.
>>
>>I also need both food and soap, but I don't keep them together :-)
>>
>>So it seems what you want is a set of facilities for development of a 
>>certain class of applications. Not pressing at all but I'd love to see a 
>>description of it.
>>
>>Otherwise it's like the Common Ada Library idea again.
>>
>>What I liked in the forming GWindows/Claw project was that it seemed to be 
>>about one well defined and manageable area, GUI. Oh well...
>>
> 
> Well whether it's GWindows, CLAW or GWindows And CLAW...it's still a GUI 
> project.  We wouldn't coding databases, at least not creating it, it's 
> already existent. 
> 
> 

Of course, if people had a problem with it, they are free to submit
their own patches :) Which is kind of nice.

I am more a selfish programmer, I don't end up coding anything unless
it is something that I need, which may be something that is additional
to an open source library. Then I will submit a patch. The library not
being 100% of what you want it out of the box, shouldn't stop anyone :)

Basically, if someone really wanted it, they could write it themselves.
One thing about opensource is the freedom to do this and the ability
to submit a patch and have it be included for others (if you wish).
Note I am not attacking anyone, just pointing out that if someone wanted
something, they could write it themselves.

A GUI library should just be for GUI stuff.
A DB library should just be for DB stuff.

It should then be up to the programmer (implementer of libraries) to
create the new api that is specific to their project(s). It is easy
to do, and seems an easier way to manage things.

Even QT requires external libraries for it's database stuff, it just
has a common api for using any database... Which could be easy to write
in Ada.

Not sure why this is such a big deal :)

My opinion is for both projects to be on their own cvs repositories,
and for the direction of the project be decided by those that write
the code :)

my 2 cents,
Chris



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-01 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-29  2:48 GWindows and a future home for it Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-09-29  2:53 ` stephane richard
2004-09-29  7:20   ` Martin Krischik
2004-09-29 12:40 ` Chris Humphries
2004-09-29 15:21   ` stephane richard
2004-09-29 19:12     ` Chris Humphries
2004-09-30  0:03 ` Stephen Leake
2004-09-30  1:39   ` stephane richard
2004-09-30  3:29   ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
     [not found]     ` <mailman.141.1096581654.390.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
2004-09-30 23:32       ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-01  1:28     ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-01  1:39       ` stephane richard
2004-10-01  6:43       ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
     [not found]     ` <umzz75se6.fsf@acm.org>
2004-10-01 10:48       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-01 14:49         ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-10-01 15:39           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-01 15:50             ` stephane richard
2004-10-01 16:25               ` Chris Humphries [this message]
2004-10-01 17:09                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-21 17:12                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-21 18:02                     ` Coupling or not coupling database and GUI libraries (was: GWindows and a future home for it) Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-21 21:11                       ` Coupling or not coupling database and GUI libraries Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-22  2:36                       ` Coupling or not coupling database and GUI libraries (was: GWindows and a future home for it) David Botton
2004-10-02  2:01             ` GWindows and a future home for it Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-09-30 14:40   ` Nick Roberts
2004-09-30 15:22     ` stephane richard
2004-10-01 19:52       ` Nick Roberts
2004-09-30 16:55     ` tmoran
2004-09-30 22:17   ` Stephen McNeill
2004-09-30 22:48     ` stephane richard
2004-10-01 16:34   ` Björn Persson
2004-10-01 16:58   ` AndreS
2004-10-01 18:08     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-01 18:16       ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-01 23:20         ` tmoran
2004-10-02  0:45         ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-03 17:23           ` David Botton
2004-10-04 22:10         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-01 18:40       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-03 22:45         ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-04 13:01           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-04 21:05             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-06 10:13               ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 13:15                 ` David Botton
2004-10-06 14:35                   ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 15:07                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-10-06 17:04                       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 17:53                         ` Licenses and physical things Björn Persson
2004-10-06 18:02                         ` GWindows and a future home for it Hyman Rosen
2004-10-06 18:39                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 18:58                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-06 19:20                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 20:30                             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-10-06 21:28                               ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 21:40                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-10-07 11:50                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-07 14:33                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-06 13:19                 ` Gnat Pro and the GPL Björn Persson
2004-10-06 17:16                   ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 17:55                     ` Björn Persson
2004-10-06 18:18                       ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-06 19:02                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-10-06 20:25                           ` Björn Persson
2004-10-07  6:07                             ` Florian Weimer
2004-10-07 16:00                               ` Björn Persson
2004-10-06 22:21                         ` CBFalconer
2004-10-06 18:04                     ` Hyman Rosen
     [not found]               ` <4163C54F.9050700@netcabo.pt>
2004-10-07  0:27                 ` GWindows and a future home for it Stephen Leake
2004-10-07  0:55                   ` stephane richard
2004-10-07 19:11                     ` Not redistributing GNAT Pro (was: GWindows and a home for it) Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-08  2:07                       ` Jeff C r e e.m
2004-10-08 16:50                         ` Not redistributing GNAT Pro Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-08 17:26                           ` Jeff C r e e.m
2004-10-09  2:27                           ` Brian May
2004-10-09 11:14                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-10-09  5:16                           ` CBFalconer
2004-10-09  9:57                             ` Jerry van Dijk
2004-10-08  5:53                       ` Not redistributing GNAT Pro (was: GWindows and a home for it) Simon Wright
2004-10-01 23:57     ` GWindows and a future home for it Stephen Leake
2004-10-02  3:06     ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-10-02  7:13       ` tmoran
2004-10-03 16:22         ` James E. Hopper
2004-10-03 19:03         ` Future of Ada volunteer efforts David Botton
2004-10-03 23:31           ` stephane richard
2004-09-30  0:13 ` GWindows Database time type Stephen Leake
2004-09-30  4:31   ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-10-01  0:57     ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-01  1:44       ` stephane richard
2004-10-01  3:04         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-01 10:07           ` stephane richard
2004-09-30 18:44   ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-10-21 17:29     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-22  2:32       ` David Botton
2004-10-22 16:46         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-21 17:26   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-03 15:41 ` AdaPower and GWindows community effort drive David Botton
2004-10-03 16:45   ` stephane richard
2004-10-03 17:29     ` David Botton
2004-10-03 17:38       ` stephane richard
2004-10-03 19:10         ` David Botton
2004-10-04  2:12       ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-04  2:21         ` stephane richard
2004-10-04 13:25         ` David Botton
2004-10-04  2:37   ` Fionn mac Cuimhaill
2004-10-04  2:49     ` stephane richard
2004-10-04 13:44     ` David Botton
2004-10-05  1:25       ` David Botton
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2004-10-07  6:20 GWindows and a future home for it Robert C. Leif
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