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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:43:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <108p8bi$16qn1$6@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <108p65h$17vk1$1@dont-email.me>

On 2025-08-28 11:05, Kevin Chadwick wrote:

>> But can you do type checking dynamically, at run-time?
>>
> 
> 'Valid

Except that this is not checking of the type, which is not possible on 
fundamental grounds.

It is checking a value of an object for constraints. That a value might 
violate the constraints is itself a result of type violation when the 
value was coerced to the type by an operation not defined on the type, 
e.g. per Unchecked_Conversion or memory mapping.

But the point you make is correct it is same as Python's "type 
checking," namely lets take something apparently untyped and see if that 
thing could pass for the given type.

In Python everything is untyped even when type annotations are used.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18 10:29 In precision typing we trust Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-18 11:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 13:59   ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 15:03     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 22:52       ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-19  6:24       ` J-P. Rosen
2025-08-19  7:29         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20  0:41           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 15:49           ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-20 19:00             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20  0:40         ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 13:59           ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 14:58             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 17:18               ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 19:04                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 20:38                   ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 21:59                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 23:37                       ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-21 21:37                         ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-21  1:31                     ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-20 18:10       ` Niklas Holsti
2025-08-20 18:54         ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22  1:27           ` Alastair Hogge
2025-08-22 12:49             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22 22:13               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-22 23:21                 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-23 22:58                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24  8:37                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 11:05                       ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-24 12:59                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 21:51                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24 21:50                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25  8:19                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25  8:51                           ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 10:41                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 17:12                               ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 20:09                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 21:13                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26  7:59                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27  0:13                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  7:39                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:10                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 23:49                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:35                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  7:54                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  8:50                                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  9:02                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 21:27                                   ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26  7:27                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 21:10                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26  8:14                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26 16:48                               ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26 17:01                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:43                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27  0:00                                   ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-27  0:14                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  7:51                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 20:45                                       ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-28  8:38                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  9:00                                           ` Von Ottone
2025-08-27 23:16                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  8:48                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29  3:57                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  7:53                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:29                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  8:56                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 12:25                                     ` Björn Persson
2025-08-28 22:14                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 15:30                                         ` Björn Persson
2025-08-30  3:34                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-30  8:49                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 22:34                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  0:09                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  9:06                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:36                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27  0:10                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  7:57                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:12                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  0:07                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:38                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  8:00                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26  9:06                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-23  0:26                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-23 22:59                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-23 23:58                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-24 21:49                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25  8:19                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 20:58                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27  9:01                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-27  9:24                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:07                                 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  0:00                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:22                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  0:11                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  0:20                                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  0:33                                       ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  1:17                                         ` Alex // nytpu
2025-08-28  1:45                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  8:24                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29  3:53                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  8:07                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:27                                                   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  9:15                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  9:17                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29  3:51                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  9:27                                                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29  9:33                                                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30  6:21                                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  0:43                                                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-31  7:30                                                         ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  8:51                                                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  9:04                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29  3:55                                           ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  9:41                                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30  3:31                                               ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28  9:05                                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28  9:43                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2025-08-29  3:54                                             ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29  8:15                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:25                                                 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31  9:26                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28  0:30                                     ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 19:10         ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 23:27   ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-18 23:46     ` Kevin Chadwick
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