From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <108p5v2$16qn1$5@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <108p582$17opg$1@dont-email.me>
On 2025-08-28 10:50, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>
>>
>> I can explain how it works. When a DLL is loaded its library level
>> gets elaborated. So if you have:
>>
>> package P is
>> type T is tagged ...
>> end P;
>>
>> in the main program or DLL and
>>
>> with P;
>> package Q is
>> type S is new T with ...
>> function F return T'Class;
>> end Q;
>>
>> in the DLL being loaded, then in the process of elaboration S will be
>> created which in particular means extending of the dispatching table.
>> You can return a class-wide object from there and dispatch on the
>> newly created type's operation.
>>
>> Clear?
>
> Interesting, better than the shape examples but I guess you have to get
> that in the first instance.
Dynamic polymorphism is an extremely powerful mechanism, but it kind of
bends out of traditional typing.
It is like the relativity theory. Everything is relative, position,
velocity, but up to the point. Acceleration is not anymore. Same is with
typing: value->type, so far so good, but one more step up:
value->type->class and something happens. Primitive operations become
reachable even if you do not see them, you cannot hide them. Multiple
inheritance, OK, but what about conflicts, is it additive or idempotent?
Multiple dispatch is a total dark hole.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2025-08-18 10:29 In precision typing we trust Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-18 11:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 13:59 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 15:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 22:52 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-19 6:24 ` J-P. Rosen
2025-08-19 7:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 0:41 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 15:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-20 19:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 0:40 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 13:59 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 14:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 17:18 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 19:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 20:38 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 21:59 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 23:37 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-21 21:37 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-21 1:31 ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-20 18:10 ` Niklas Holsti
2025-08-20 18:54 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22 1:27 ` Alastair Hogge
2025-08-22 12:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22 22:13 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-22 23:21 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-23 22:58 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 11:05 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-24 12:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 21:51 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24 21:50 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 8:51 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 10:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 17:12 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 21:13 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26 7:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 0:13 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 7:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:10 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 23:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 0:35 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 8:50 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 9:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2025-08-25 21:27 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26 7:27 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 21:10 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26 8:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26 16:48 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26 17:01 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 0:00 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-27 0:14 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 7:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 20:45 ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-28 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 9:00 ` Von Ottone
2025-08-27 23:16 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 8:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29 3:57 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 7:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:29 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 8:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 12:25 ` Björn Persson
2025-08-28 22:14 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 15:30 ` Björn Persson
2025-08-30 3:34 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-30 8:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 22:34 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 0:09 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 9:06 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 0:10 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:12 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 0:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 0:38 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 8:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26 9:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-23 0:26 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-23 22:59 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-23 23:58 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-24 21:49 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 20:58 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 9:01 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-27 9:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:07 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 0:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 0:22 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 0:11 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 0:20 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 0:33 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 1:17 ` Alex // nytpu
2025-08-28 1:45 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29 3:53 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 8:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:27 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 9:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 9:17 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29 3:51 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 9:27 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29 9:33 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 6:21 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 0:43 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-31 7:30 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 8:51 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 9:04 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29 3:55 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 9:41 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 3:31 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 9:05 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 9:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29 3:54 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 8:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:25 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 9:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 0:30 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 19:10 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 23:27 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-18 23:46 ` Kevin Chadwick
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