From: Kevin Chadwick <kc-usenet@chadwicks.me.uk>
Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 12:49:54 -0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1089p1i$1ig1d$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1088h1a$19635$1@dont-email.me>
>
>It is with increasing frequency that video presentations, or plain-old
>written articles are making these assertions about OOP, and it's origins,
>and obvious problems in the context of C++. They all ignore Ada, and the
>Lisps, and their contributions, and their sound design in the context of
>OOP.
The ignorance of Ada is frustrating but certainly a lot of the newer
languages are avoiding atleast inheritance (Go, Rust, Odin and Zig).
Personally I have only used any OOP features in Dart and Ada. In Dart I
hate the seemingly excessive boiler plate. In Ada I rarely use tagged types
as they are incompatible with sized record representation which I love
(perhaps that has changed recently but I don't think so). I therefore know
little about OOP and I haven't liked inheritance when I have used it. I
also actually found myself disagreeing with Grady Booch objects are a
better way diagrams in his Ada books to be honest though. So the point
about OOP being incompatible with systems thinking might stand.
--
Regards, Kc
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2025-08-18 10:29 In precision typing we trust Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-18 11:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-18 13:59 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-18 15:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2025-08-19 6:24 ` J-P. Rosen
2025-08-19 7:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 0:41 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 15:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-20 19:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 0:40 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 13:59 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 14:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 17:18 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 19:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-20 20:38 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-20 21:59 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-20 23:37 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-21 21:37 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-21 1:31 ` Keith Thompson
2025-08-20 18:10 ` Niklas Holsti
2025-08-20 18:54 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-22 1:27 ` Alastair Hogge
2025-08-22 12:49 ` Kevin Chadwick [this message]
2025-08-22 22:13 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-22 23:21 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-23 22:58 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 11:05 ` Niocláisín Cóilín de Ghlostéir
2025-08-24 12:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-24 21:51 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-24 21:50 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 8:51 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-25 10:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 17:12 ` Paul Rubin
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2025-08-25 21:13 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26 7:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 0:13 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-28 0:35 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 7:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 8:50 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 9:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-25 21:27 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26 7:27 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-25 21:10 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-26 8:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26 16:48 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-26 17:01 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 0:00 ` Paul Rubin
2025-08-27 0:14 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-27 23:16 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 8:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2025-08-29 7:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:29 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-28 22:14 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 15:30 ` Björn Persson
2025-08-30 3:34 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-30 8:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 22:34 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 0:09 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-27 9:06 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-26 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 0:10 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-27 23:12 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-28 0:38 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 8:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-26 9:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-23 0:26 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-23 22:59 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-23 23:58 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-24 21:49 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-25 20:58 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-27 9:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-27 23:07 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 0:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 0:22 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 0:11 ` Kevin Chadwick
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2025-08-28 0:33 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 1:17 ` Alex // nytpu
2025-08-28 1:45 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-29 3:53 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 8:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-30 22:27 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 9:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2025-08-28 9:17 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-29 3:51 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 9:27 ` Kevin Chadwick
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2025-08-30 6:21 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-31 0:43 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-31 7:30 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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2025-08-29 3:55 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-29 9:41 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-30 3:31 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
2025-08-28 9:05 ` Kevin Chadwick
2025-08-28 9:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2025-08-28 0:30 ` Lawrence D’Oliveiro
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