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From: Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com>
Subject: Re: C's trikery semantic opens up backdoor in new Linux kernel
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:01:10 -0500
Date: 2003-11-28T09:01:10-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1070028071.92808@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tki9svs1t1j21amp4u14ro5jp3ihc92si6@4ax.com>

Dave Thompson wrote:
 > you can accomplish the same thing by writing out (desired declarations etc.
> from) the contents of the include-d file changed as specified.

Note that a Standard C++ compiler is not required to represent
such a modified structure in the same way as the original. If
the class name for the modified class is the same as the original,
and the program includes both, the behavior is undefined. If you
attempt to examine an object of the original type using a pointer
to the new type, the behavior is undefined.

In Standard C++, the technical meaning of "undefined behavior" is
that if an operation with undefined behavior is ever encountered
by a program, the behavior of the entire program is completely
unspecifed by the standard, even for things that happen before
that operation. Violating the One-Definition Rule (that is, the
definition of a type or function must be exactly the same throughout
an entire program, when the language permits a definition to appear
more than once) makes a program undefined as well.




  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-28 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-12  3:17 C's trikery semantic opens up backdoor in new Linux kernel Adrian Hoe
2003-11-12  4:26 ` Stephane Richard
2003-11-12  5:13   ` J Cusick
2003-11-12  7:18     ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-12  7:50       ` Duncan Sands
2003-11-12 12:08         ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-12 13:38           ` Duncan Sands
2003-11-12 14:09             ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-13 21:04               ` Craig Carey
2003-11-14  6:45                 ` Freejack
2003-11-14  8:33                 ` Erlo Haugen
2003-11-14  9:44                   ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-14 10:16                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-11-25 10:06                       ` Craig Carey
2003-11-25 11:20                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-11-14 15:31                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-11-14 13:12               ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-11-14 13:31                 ` Duncan Sands
2003-11-14 14:56                 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-14 15:08                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-11-14 15:38                     ` Duncan Sands
2003-11-14 17:57                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-11-14 15:47               ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-11-14 16:38                 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-11-19  4:13             ` Dave Thompson
2003-11-21 15:34               ` Martin Krischik
2003-11-23  2:20                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-11-27  4:22                 ` Dave Thompson
2003-11-28 14:01                   ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
2003-11-12 17:37       ` tmoran
2003-11-12 18:03       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-11-12  8:51     ` Adrian Hoe
2003-11-12 12:32       ` Preben Randhol
2003-11-13  5:50         ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-11-12 22:59       ` Wes Groleau
2003-11-14  3:31         ` Adrian Hoe
2003-11-14 11:00           ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-11-15  5:00             ` Adrian Hoe
2003-11-15  5:02             ` Adrian Hoe
2003-11-16 11:29               ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-11-17 17:07                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-11-16 11:35             ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-11-15 19:30           ` Wes Groleau
2003-11-12  8:52   ` Adrian Hoe
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