From: Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com>
Subject: Re: Ariane5 FAQ
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:56:15 -0400
Date: 2003-07-23T09:56:15-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1058968575.195899@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2003.07.22.21.38.47.69997@mail.utexas.edu>
Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
> But you are picking nits that fall far from your original objection to
> Alexandre's claim that "there were no reasons to expect that it should
> work for this new rocket". The simple fact is that the project completely
> skipped over the steps of asking whether it should be expected to work and
> then looking to see what the answer was. Merely assuming that software
> (or other rocket components) will work is neither sensible nor safe: you
> need good engineering to give you a _reason_ to expect it to work.
They are certainly at fault for not having done the proper testing,
but had they done so, it would have revealed that the good reasons
they had for expecting things to just work were in fact not true,
not that they had no reason to expect it to work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-23 13:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-21 2:10 Ariane5 FAQ Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-07-21 14:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 15:54 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-21 18:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 18:10 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-21 18:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 19:13 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-21 19:43 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 20:46 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-22 2:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 5:12 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-22 19:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 8:03 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2003-07-22 9:00 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-23 0:13 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 0:31 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-23 13:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-24 16:35 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-25 1:21 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-25 4:26 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-25 12:35 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-25 15:47 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-25 16:51 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-25 18:44 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-25 21:08 ` Simon Wright
2003-07-26 1:02 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-26 2:44 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-27 17:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-27 22:19 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-28 1:17 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-28 2:39 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-28 3:16 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-28 17:34 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-28 18:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 0:41 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-29 16:24 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-30 0:53 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-31 21:41 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-01 20:19 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-29 4:43 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-29 6:06 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 8:06 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-29 19:42 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-29 21:14 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-30 1:13 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 12:58 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-30 15:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 19:46 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 6:19 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-30 7:31 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 13:03 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-30 13:16 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-30 15:06 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 15:15 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-30 16:46 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 16:54 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-31 8:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-31 9:36 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-31 16:28 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-07-29 19:34 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-29 20:49 ` Simon Wright
2003-07-29 21:52 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-28 18:01 ` Non-philosophical definition of Eiffel? (was: Re: Ariane5 FAQ) Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-28 18:18 ` Non-philosophical definition of Eiffel? Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 8:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-29 13:43 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 14:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-29 16:35 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 21:39 ` Jim Rogers
2003-07-29 22:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 8:48 ` Pascal Obry
2003-07-30 15:19 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 18:47 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-07-30 19:24 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-04 18:15 ` Robert Spooner
2003-07-29 22:02 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2003-07-30 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-30 16:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-31 9:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-31 15:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-01 7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-08-01 13:31 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 19:58 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-29 20:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 1:20 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 1:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 2:52 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 4:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 4:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 13:16 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-30 20:08 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 3:03 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 4:31 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-30 20:20 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-30 21:05 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-29 19:51 ` Berend de Boer
2003-07-28 2:11 ` Ariane5 FAQ Hyman Rosen
2003-07-25 17:39 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-25 21:53 ` John R. Strohm
2003-07-22 18:29 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-22 18:50 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 19:00 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-22 20:47 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-22 21:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 21:38 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-23 13:56 ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
2003-07-22 21:52 ` Larry Elmore
2003-07-23 14:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 15:08 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-23 17:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 18:42 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-23 20:18 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 22:58 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-24 1:42 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-24 5:24 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-24 9:57 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-24 13:52 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-24 15:00 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-23 20:33 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-23 21:35 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 23:10 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-24 5:16 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-22 4:57 ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-22 9:00 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-22 9:03 ` John McCabe
2003-07-22 12:28 ` Marin David Condic
2003-07-23 19:40 ` Simon Wright
2003-07-22 3:11 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-22 9:05 ` John McCabe
2003-07-22 9:38 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-22 16:38 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-21 22:03 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-22 1:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 18:56 ` Francisco Malpartida
2003-07-22 2:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 7:19 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-07-22 19:06 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 21:24 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-23 11:55 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-07-23 19:24 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-24 0:36 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-21 22:00 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-07-22 1:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 9:07 ` John McCabe
2003-07-22 13:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 0:16 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-22 1:45 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 7:21 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2003-07-21 23:24 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-07-22 1:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 16:35 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-22 18:36 ` Mike Silva
2003-07-22 19:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22 21:50 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-23 14:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 19:56 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-23 20:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23 23:14 ` Robert I. Eachus
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