From: "Hyman Rosen" <hyrosen@mail.com>
Subject: Re: Ada / C++ comparison paper
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:51:10 -0500
Date: 2001-12-18T12:51:10-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1008697855.857274@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: P2ET7.25032$4e3.3277598@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com
"martin.m.dowie" <martin.m.dowie@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:P2ET7.25032$4e3.3277598@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> "Ed Falis" <efalis@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:3C1E941C.5010402@mediaone.net...
> > Marin David Condic wrote:
> >
> > Course, if you want to pick up a real C++ slammer, try Objects
> > Unencapsulated by Ian Joyner. I guarantee that whatever Ed wrote will
> > be completely eclipsed. ;-)
>
> Just in case anyone hasn't read that paper, here's a link
>
> http://www.elj.com/cppcv3/
>
> (it is one of the most thought out papers I've come across)
I was immediately drawn to section 3.2, where the author argues
for whole-program type analysis. In a world of dynamic libraries
and run-time code module loading, this is a futile hope. The author
is an Eiffel advocate, and the need for whole-program analysis is
entirely because of Eiffel's misbegotten feature of allowing a derived
class to inherit its parents' methods but to restrict the parameter
types, so that the child is not substitutable for its parent.
Eiffel is less used than Ada, so I suppose the flop sweat is greater.
Anyway, as this is neither a C++ nor an Eiffel group, I will refrain
from further criticism of this paper.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-12-18 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-12-17 10:22 Ada / C++ comparison paper Martin Dowie
2001-12-17 14:42 ` Frode Tenneboe
2001-12-17 22:07 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-12-17 22:34 ` David C. Hoos
2001-12-17 22:37 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-18 0:54 ` Ed Falis
2001-12-18 9:30 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-12-18 14:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-18 17:51 ` Hyman Rosen [this message]
2001-12-19 16:10 ` Greg C
2001-12-20 14:41 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-12-20 20:16 ` Greg C
2001-12-19 20:44 ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-19 20:47 ` Ed Falis
2001-12-20 18:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-20 19:12 ` Richard Riehle
2001-12-18 1:16 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-17 22:52 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-12-18 15:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-12-18 16:20 ` Pat Rogers
2001-12-18 17:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-12-18 17:28 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-18 19:40 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-12-18 20:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-12-19 0:53 ` was Re: Ada / C++ comparison paper anymore Mark Lundquist
2001-12-19 1:47 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-12-19 18:20 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-19 19:39 ` Patrick Hohmeyer
2001-12-19 19:38 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-19 20:51 ` Patrick Hohmeyer
2001-12-20 17:56 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-12-20 18:48 ` Patrick Hohmeyer
2001-12-20 19:20 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-12-21 3:16 ` Implicit instantiation (was Re: Ada / C++ comparison paper anymore) Mark Lundquist
2001-12-21 3:12 ` Implicit instantiation (was Re: was " Mark Lundquist
2001-12-21 2:55 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-20 20:22 ` was Re: Ada / C++ comparison paper anymore Ted Dennison
2001-12-20 20:57 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 17:44 ` Richard Riehle
2001-12-21 17:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-19 18:20 ` Ada / C++ comparison paper Mark Lundquist
2001-12-20 20:27 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-20 20:59 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 14:26 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-21 14:32 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 15:11 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-12-20 22:30 ` tmoran
2001-12-20 22:36 ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 14:23 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-21 18:46 ` tmoran
2001-12-21 19:09 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-21 2:46 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-21 14:28 ` Ted Dennison
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