comp.lang.ada
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Hadrien Grasland <hadrien.grasland@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Haskell, anyone?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:42:00 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2015-11-17T13:42:00-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ff849e9-11d7-438d-abf9-853f79348640@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8qccxj4.fsf@nightsong.com>

Le mardi 17 novembre 2015 19:04:53 UTC+1, Paul Rubin a écrit :
> > I would say that recursion is the goto statement of functional
> > programming languages : necessary in order to achieve
> > Turing-completeness, and occasionally useful, but makes control flow
> > messy and programs very difficult to reason about,
> 
> No that's continuations ;-).  Recursion works fine and is simpler
> than loops to reason about and simple to use.

Consider these two C code snippets:

int iterate_recursion(int n) {
...if (n < 2) {
......return 1;
...} else {
......return iterate_recursion(n-1);
...}
}

int iterate_goto(int n) {
...beginning:
...if (n < 2) {
......return 1;
...} else {
......n = n-1;
......goto beginning;
...}
}

You have to admit that in the end, the basic approach is almost exactly the same, and people will need to reason about it in exactly the same way ("okay, so at the start of the iteration, the input parameter is indeed n, but after that, we'll decrement it and go back to the beginning of the function, this time with the input parameter equal to n-1, and then...").

Hence my claim that recursion is, indeed, the ultimate goto, including when it comes to ease of understanding. Guy Steele will be most pleased.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-17 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-15 20:42 Haskell, anyone? mockturtle
2015-11-15 20:51 ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-15 20:53 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2015-11-15 21:50 ` Mark Carroll
2015-11-15 22:11 ` mockturtle
2015-11-15 22:48   ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2015-11-15 23:05     ` Mark Carroll
2015-11-16  4:11       ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-16  5:17         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2015-11-16  5:48           ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-16  5:59             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2015-11-16  6:47               ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-16  8:45           ` Simon Wright
2015-11-16 14:38             ` Brian Drummond
2015-11-15 23:19     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-11-16  9:36       ` J-P. Rosen
2015-11-16 18:14         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-11-16  3:59   ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-16  8:33   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-16  9:33     ` mockturtle
2015-11-16  9:45       ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-16 10:25 ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-16 11:19   ` Simon Wright
2015-11-16 11:25     ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-16 13:59   ` G.B.
2015-11-16 20:24   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-11-16 23:23   ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-17  8:26     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-17  9:10       ` Mark Carroll
2015-11-17 20:09         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-17 10:49     ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-17 12:01       ` G.B.
2015-11-17 16:43         ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-17 18:04           ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-17 21:42             ` Hadrien Grasland [this message]
2015-11-18  4:36               ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-18  8:48                 ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-18  9:23                   ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-18 10:44                     ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-18 11:02                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-11-18 12:41                         ` G.B.
2015-11-18 23:06                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-19  8:56                         ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-19  9:19                           ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-19 21:27                           ` Randy Brukardt
2015-11-24 12:03                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-11-19  7:22                       ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-19  9:39                         ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-17 13:01       ` Thomas Løcke
2015-11-17 16:45         ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-11-18  0:11       ` Paul Rubin
2015-11-18  9:44         ` Hadrien Grasland
2015-12-06 12:59   ` David Thompson
2015-12-07  7:25     ` Hadrien Grasland
replies disabled

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox