From: Wes Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:56:02 -0500
Date: 2002-12-16T08:56:02-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0YkL9.2262$c6.2398@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: atff1p$llm$1@slb9.atl.mindspring.net
> Sounds like a good start. Problem 1: Is any of that stuff available under
> any kind of license that lets someone else use/develop it? Problem 2:
It is my belief that since we (the taxpayers) paid for it,
we (the taxpayers) can get the source, provided it isn't
classified--which it shouldn't be, being a general-purpose
database.
> Assuming it were available, would any of the vendors (or their existing
> customers) start clammoring to have it incorporated in their products?
Don't know. They might if they knew about it. But they might prefer
to get it from the developer, _with_support_
> Problem 3: Is it sufficiently powerful - or at least offering something
> new/unique - that it could compete against other database products?
Seemed like it to me. But contact Lockheed-Martin, Boxo 4840, Syracuse, NY
for the details. They do not seem to be agressively marketing it.
I did not work directly on RTDB and I left GE/Martin/Lockheed before
the successor, FIRM, came along. But I liked what I read about both.
One thing I _did_ work on there was, in the opinion of several of us,
a very useful testing tool. We tried to get the company to market it,
and we were told "We are not a tools business."
BTW, RTDB = Real-Time DataBase. A fast _and_ deterministic
component for a hard-real-time _large_ military system.
> I don't want to shoot down a good idea - just trying to raise the issues
> that would need to be addressed if persuing the matter further is to have
> any success. Its sort of like raising the issue of the Booch Components as a
> conventional part of Ada - The vendors don't seem to be itching to put them
I understand. But you did suggest developing a database,
and I figured mentioning the existence of a good one couldn't
hurt.
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2002-12-07 2:47 IBM Acquires Rational Ada Richard Riehle
2002-12-07 8:24 ` achrist
2002-12-08 1:46 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-08 14:45 ` Steven Deller
2002-12-08 20:20 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-09 14:26 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 18:25 ` achrist
2002-12-11 19:29 ` Martin Dowie
2002-12-22 2:07 ` faust
2002-12-21 18:08 ` faust
2002-12-08 17:18 ` steve_H
2002-12-08 20:11 ` Steven Deller
2002-12-09 14:24 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-09 15:23 ` John McCabe
2002-12-09 16:55 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-08 23:31 ` Christopher Browne
2002-12-09 10:30 ` John McCabe
2002-12-09 14:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-12-09 14:32 ` Pat Rogers
2002-12-09 15:42 ` Simon Wright
2002-12-12 14:41 ` Alvery Grazebrook
2002-12-12 21:13 ` Martin Dowie
2002-12-16 13:24 ` UML to Ada Mapping Alvery Grazebrook
2002-12-17 8:27 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Simon Wright
2002-12-10 22:43 ` Andreas Almroth
2002-12-09 13:09 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-09 22:45 ` steve_H
2002-12-10 13:50 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-10 17:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-10 20:21 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-10 22:05 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-11 2:50 ` steve_H
2002-12-11 8:51 ` OT: Word processing (was: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada) Anders Wirzenius
2002-12-11 13:45 ` IBM Acquires Rational Ada Marin David Condic
2002-12-11 14:46 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-12 13:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 18:19 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-12 19:12 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 17:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-13 18:20 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
[not found] ` <KIkL9.2260$c6.2599@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com>
2002-12-16 18:12 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-17 21:25 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-16 18:54 ` John R. Strohm
2002-12-16 22:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-17 14:47 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 20:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-16 10:11 ` calenday (was " Peter Hermann
2002-12-16 18:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-16 19:04 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 20:25 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-16 20:37 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 21:41 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-16 22:11 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-17 15:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-17 16:26 ` Peter Hermann
2002-12-17 16:37 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-16 22:32 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 22:21 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-17 8:07 ` Simon Wright
2002-12-19 12:23 ` Frank Piron
2002-12-19 12:33 ` Karel Miklav
2002-12-19 13:24 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 14:46 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-17 19:08 ` tmoran
2002-12-17 19:15 ` Bill Findlay
2002-12-17 20:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-17 19:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-17 20:08 ` David C. Hoos
2002-12-17 20:52 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-12-17 21:43 ` Steven Murdoch
2002-12-17 16:39 ` Robert A Duff
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2002-12-18 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-18 15:17 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-18 17:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 8:48 ` tmoran
2002-12-19 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 20:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-20 12:23 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-20 21:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-20 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-20 12:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-21 15:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-21 14:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-20 18:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-20 19:48 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-12-20 21:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-23 2:05 ` AG
2002-12-27 20:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-21 15:59 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-20 21:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 18:57 ` Robert A Duff
[not found] ` <atk8s0$7dm$1@news.uni <wcc4r9b40ka.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-12-18 19:16 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-18 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 22:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-12-18 22:39 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-19 2:41 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-19 11:47 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-13 14:18 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-13 17:07 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2002-12-13 21:52 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-14 14:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-14 20:01 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 18:48 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-16 23:01 ` Ed Cogburn
2002-12-11 14:59 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-11 18:33 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 20:51 ` steve_H
2002-12-11 21:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 18:24 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-24 4:16 ` David Thompson
2002-12-11 21:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-12-11 23:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-12-12 16:44 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 17:14 ` Fraser Wilson
2002-12-12 18:33 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 19:16 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-13 21:26 ` Programmer Dude
2002-12-16 19:27 ` John R. Strohm
2002-12-16 20:08 ` Hyman Rosen
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2002-12-11 19:04 ` tmoran
2002-12-11 19:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-12-12 13:34 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 17:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-12-12 18:17 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 9:17 ` Peter Amey
2002-12-13 12:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 15:46 ` Robert Spooner
2002-12-14 14:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-15 10:30 ` Ingo Marks
2002-12-15 13:54 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-15 19:20 ` tmoran
2002-12-16 13:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-17 15:41 ` steve_H
2002-12-18 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-16 13:43 ` Wes Groleau
2002-12-11 13:33 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-12 18:43 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-12-12 19:53 ` tmoran
2002-12-13 6:06 ` Richard Riehle
2002-12-13 10:22 ` Ed Cogburn
2002-12-13 13:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-12-13 14:16 ` Wes Groleau
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2002-12-13 21:55 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
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