From: Niklas Holsti <nobody@nowhere.fi>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:59:40 +0300
Date: 2005-09-18T21:59:40+03:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0QiXe.25752$v8.23575@reader1.news.jippii.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1126773856.876636.265130@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Ludovic Brenta wrote:
>
> Please take into account that recent versions of ASIS and GLADE are
> only available under GPL, not GMGPL. The same is true for AWS,
> GtkAda, XML/Ada etc. but is less of a concern because these libraries
> are not tightly coupled with the compiler.
>
> Please cast a vote on this forum. This is the time to influence the
> next version of Debian.
I applaud Ludovic for arranging this vote (and I voted already).
However, I think that Ludovic should not feel *bound* to choose
the alternative that gets the most votes; at least I did not mean
my vote to have that effect. I understood -- perhaps selfishly --
the question to be "what sort of GNAT compiler do you, as a Debian
Ada user, need for what you are doing" and I voted from that
perspective.
But perhaps the choice of the next Debian Ada compiler should
depend more on attracting *new* Ada users. It seems to me that
this would give more importance to good support of Ada 2005 and
ASIS and GLADE, to make the full, modern Ada technology available
on Debian. Therefore, I urge Ludovic to override my vote for a
GMGPL GNAT if it conflicts with good support of Ada 2005, ASIS and
GLADE.
Practically speaking, it is probably a lot easier for me to
install a GMGPL version of GNAT (perhaps an older one) without
ASIS and GLADE (which I don't need) than it is for Ludovic and
his team to make ASIS and GLADE work with a GNAT distribution that
does not come from AdaCore.
I would also like to ask the group's opinion on a licensing issue
related to the above. Suppose that GNAT GPL 2005 is chosen as the
new Debian Ada compiler, but I want to install a GNAT with a GMGPL
library. Supppose further that I get the sources for such a GNAT
and compile it (compiler and libraries) with GNAT GPL 2005. The
resulting compiler is under the strict GPL since it contains the
strict GPL library. However, as I understand it, application
programs compiled with the resulting compiler and linked with its
GMGPL library are not GPL, but can be distributed as binary only.
Do you agree? I know that no-one (?) here is a lawyer, but I would
value your opinion on this.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
niklas holsti tidorum fi
. @ .
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2005-09-15 6:50 GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available Jamie Ayre
2005-09-15 7:34 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-15 8:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 9:27 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-15 10:03 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 9:33 ` Brian May
2005-09-15 10:15 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 22:58 ` Brian May
2005-09-15 9:39 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-15 10:50 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-15 11:19 ` Stephane Riviere
2005-09-15 11:30 ` GtkAda and GPL/GMGPL, was: Re: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is Simon Clubley
2005-09-15 11:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 12:00 ` GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-15 12:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 12:55 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-15 13:37 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-18 15:24 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-15 13:01 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-09-15 15:39 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-15 16:09 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-15 17:27 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-09-15 23:26 ` Jeff Creem
2005-09-16 0:02 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-09-16 1:37 ` Jeff Creem
2005-09-16 15:16 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-09-15 14:27 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 15:35 ` Andreas Schwarz
2005-09-15 16:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-15 17:05 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-09-15 17:17 ` Adrien Plisson
2005-09-15 18:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-15 20:39 ` almost free development tools (Was: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available) Adrien Plisson
2005-09-15 18:18 ` GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available Martin Krischik
2005-09-18 16:10 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-15 18:14 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-15 22:59 ` Andreas Schwarz
2005-09-15 17:20 ` Simon Clubley
2005-09-15 17:43 ` chris
2005-09-15 18:58 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 21:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-15 21:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-18 16:10 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-19 12:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-19 16:08 ` Pascal Obry
2005-09-19 16:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-15 21:25 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-09-15 21:28 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-09-16 8:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-16 10:41 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-09-18 16:01 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-15 23:21 ` GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available - A Vote and some other comments Jeff Creem
2005-09-18 15:48 ` GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available Florian Weimer
2005-09-18 18:10 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-15 20:32 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-09-16 12:36 ` xavier
2005-09-16 21:57 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-17 10:05 ` [OT] Reasons for using Debian (Was: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-17 17:41 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-18 16:17 ` [OT] Reasons for using Debian Florian Weimer
2005-09-18 15:42 ` GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available Florian Weimer
2005-09-18 16:15 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-18 16:39 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-18 17:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-20 9:50 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-20 10:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-18 17:32 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-18 18:25 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-18 21:19 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-19 13:06 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-15 16:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-09-15 16:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-09-15 16:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-15 18:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-16 9:17 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-16 14:15 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-18 13:13 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-18 17:24 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-19 14:12 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-20 5:09 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-18 18:59 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2005-09-18 21:27 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-19 7:23 ` Brian May
2005-09-19 7:49 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-15 8:10 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-15 8:50 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 8:56 ` wojtek
2005-09-15 18:08 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-15 20:09 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-15 22:33 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-15 23:13 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-18 15:30 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-19 7:56 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-19 12:46 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-09-19 20:08 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-19 21:23 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-19 23:05 ` wojtek
2005-09-19 23:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-21 7:17 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 12:26 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-21 13:22 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-20 13:50 ` Steve
2005-09-20 18:01 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-20 19:10 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-20 19:17 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-21 2:22 ` Steve
2005-09-21 4:48 ` Steve Whalen
2005-09-21 23:30 ` chris
2005-09-27 9:28 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-09-15 18:06 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-15 19:34 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-15 20:14 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-21 7:27 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 7:57 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-21 7:58 ` Brian May
2005-09-15 11:55 ` Jeff Creem
2005-09-16 8:36 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-16 10:14 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-16 10:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-16 12:20 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-16 12:59 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-16 13:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-09-16 15:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-17 14:09 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-16 16:45 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-09-16 18:12 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-17 6:58 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-17 10:20 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-17 12:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-17 13:37 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-17 14:17 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-17 17:42 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-17 17:48 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-17 18:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-17 19:06 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-17 20:39 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-17 22:59 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-17 23:32 ` tmoran
2005-09-18 0:25 ` Brian May
2005-09-18 15:35 ` Florian Weimer
2005-09-17 13:08 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-17 14:44 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-17 16:19 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-19 19:22 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-21 7:57 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 8:25 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-09-21 8:39 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-21 8:59 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-09-21 11:02 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-21 13:20 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-09-21 17:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-09-21 20:26 ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-07 0:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-09-21 13:47 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-19 1:20 ` chrismiller677
2005-09-19 11:24 ` Brian May
2005-09-19 13:19 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-19 13:35 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-19 13:38 ` Dirk Craeynest
2005-09-19 14:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-19 19:17 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-19 11:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-21 7:56 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 8:03 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-21 10:57 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 10:58 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 12:11 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-21 12:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-21 13:03 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-21 13:16 ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-21 13:49 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-09-21 20:30 ` Tapio Kelloniemi
2005-09-21 17:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-09-21 19:11 ` Pascal Obry
2005-09-16 20:31 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-17 2:51 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-17 5:56 ` Simon Wright
2005-09-17 14:31 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-17 15:55 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-16 13:26 ` Stephane Riviere
2005-09-16 15:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-09-19 6:47 ` Steve Whalen
2005-09-19 23:49 ` wojtek
2005-09-20 0:06 ` wojtek
2005-09-19 12:57 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-09-16 10:56 ` Jeff Creem
2005-09-16 14:19 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-16 20:27 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-20 1:22 ` David Trudgett
2005-09-20 8:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-20 12:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-15 8:49 ` wojtek
2005-09-15 13:18 ` Thomas Quinot
2005-09-15 10:30 ` Brian May
2005-09-15 10:54 ` Friess Michael
2005-09-15 22:17 ` Brian May
2005-09-15 22:31 ` Britt Snodgrass
2005-09-15 15:11 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-15 15:20 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-15 16:08 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-15 17:53 ` Simon Clubley
2005-09-15 22:10 ` Björn Persson
2005-09-15 23:19 ` Samuel Tardieu
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