* lol the ada book site wants $60 what ajip @ 2016-09-23 3:45 endlessboomcapitalism 2016-09-23 4:24 ` Shark8 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: endlessboomcapitalism @ 2016-09-23 3:45 UTC (permalink / raw) get the non free shit outa here ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: lol the ada book site wants $60 what ajip 2016-09-23 3:45 lol the ada book site wants $60 what ajip endlessboomcapitalism @ 2016-09-23 4:24 ` Shark8 [not found] ` <13543b11-b075-413e-8fdf-57aa3ff00c0e@googlegroups.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Shark8 @ 2016-09-23 4:24 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 9:45:44 PM UTC-6, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote: > get the non free shit outa here There's a perfectly good place for non-free products, to include books... or do you mean to implicitly assert that an author should not be paid? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* Re: lol the ada book site wants $60 what ajip [not found] ` <13543b11-b075-413e-8fdf-57aa3ff00c0e@googlegroups.com> @ 2016-09-24 13:37 ` Dennis Lee Bieber 2016-09-25 10:01 ` darkestkhan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Dennis Lee Bieber @ 2016-09-24 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 00:28:31 -0700 (PDT), polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> declaimed the following: >If only we has more capitalism We do have capitalism -- that's why Ada (and most other text/reference books) cost so much. The publishers price them to make up the initial cost of printing -- so a book that sells only 1000 copies will probably cost much more than a similar book that sells 10000 copies -- since the up-front cost to edit/typeset both books are the same (author royalties probably don't matter, unless the author was given a guaranteed minimum amount). If it costs $50000 to set up (say $25000 for an editor making $75000/year, and another $25000 for layout/typesetting and setting up the press/binder system, plus $10 for paper per book... The 1000 copies book will need to be sold for over $60/copy just to break even; the 10000 copies book can sell for just over $15/copy and make the same profit. The GPL has never been about "no-cost" products; it's about distribution (if you use this product to make something commercially viable, we insist you provide the source code to others so they may extend and modify it to make something else viable) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: lol the ada book site wants $60 what ajip [not found] ` <13543b11-b075-413e-8fdf-57aa3ff00c0e@googlegroups.com> 2016-09-24 13:37 ` Dennis Lee Bieber @ 2016-09-25 10:01 ` darkestkhan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: darkestkhan @ 2016-09-25 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw) On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 7:28:35 AM UTC, polymorph self wrote: > On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 12:24:02 AM UTC-4, Shark8 wrote: > > On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 9:45:44 PM UTC-6, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote: > > > get the non free shit outa here > > > > There's a perfectly good place for non-free products, to include books... or do you mean to implicitly assert that an author should not be paid? > > Well is ADA free software or not? > Freebsd somehow has a free manual..... > > I never state a should, people should not listen to me telling them what to do. > > If only we has more capitalism Maybe you should go back to school and learn english again... [ok, I just got triggered]. First of all, this is Ada, not ADA (Americans With Disabilieties Act, Australian Dental Association, or whetevr else you men by ADA). In addition, Ada Reference Manual is freely available. There is one more thing - programming languages are not free or whatever. Their implementations might be free or not. Also, there is Ada compiler that is part of gcc suite - gnat. AFAIK gcc is under gpl which is free software. And you could freaking do a google search instead of triggering me [and likely others] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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