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From: "Nick Roberts" <Nick.Roberts@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: Bignum modular types in Ada95
Date: 1998/01/31
Date: 1998-01-31T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01bd2e92$1ce64d80$LocalHost@xhv46.dial.pipex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34D04FFD.41C6@cl.cam.ac.uk


Point taken, but I have another question.  Traditional bignums (e.g. in
LISP) are dynamically extensible: they can change size during run-time to
fit the actual value stored.  For some applications, this approach would
make sense, but for others it may not.  So what approach to take:
dynamically resizing, statically sized, or both?  And if both, how to
choose (depending on the range, by a representaion clause, by a pragma, or
something else)?

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Markus Kuhn <Markus.Kuhn@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in article
<34D04FFD.41C6@cl.cam.ac.uk>...
> Robert A Duff wrote:
> > >Handling 1024-bit integer arithmetic in the Ada compiler and not in
> > >some library package has the advantage that the compiler will later
> > >be able to do much better optimization (e.g. automatic register
> > >allocation), once we get CPUs with 1024-bit integer registers and
> > >ALUs, which I expect to happen in the next three years.
> > 
> > Are you talking about special-purpose hardware?  I doubt if 1024-bit
> > registers will exist in general-purpose computers any time soon.  (I
> > reserve the right to redefine "soon" at will.)
> 
> No, I am talking about the standard off-the-shelf Pentium
> successor in a few years, not about any exotic special hardware.
> IPv6 and electronic commerce will make it necessary that normal
> workstations can to thousands of 1024-bit modexp operations per
> second for authentication protocols. This is commonly expected to
> be the next major functional extention after MMX.
> 
> 20-dollar smartcard microcontrollers have such 1024-bit registers/ALUs
> already available today. It is just a matter of time until we
> see them in workstation processors.
> 
> > Anyway, having the feature "built in" gives other advantages: literals,
> > range checking, case_statements, etc.  None of that works with some
> > library package (unfortunately).
> 
> Agree. Dear Ada compiler developers, please have a look again at
> builtin bignum support!





  reply	other threads:[~1998-01-31  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-01-27  0:00 Bignum modular types in Ada95 Markus Kuhn
1998-01-28  0:00 ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
1998-01-28  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-28  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-01  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-07  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-09  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-28  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-01-28  0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-01-28  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-29  0:00     ` Markus Kuhn
1998-01-30  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
     [not found]   ` <EnIIvn.3zr@world.std.com>
1998-01-29  0:00     ` Markus Kuhn
1998-01-31  0:00       ` Nick Roberts [this message]
1998-01-29  0:00     ` Mats Weber
     [not found]       ` <EnKEtu.KGp@world.std.com>
1998-01-30  0:00         ` Mats Weber
1998-02-01  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-01  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-30  0:00         ` Markus Kuhn
1998-01-30  0:00           ` Mats Weber
1998-01-30  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-01-31  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-01  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-31  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-01  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-01  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-01  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-02  0:00     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1998-02-02  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-03  0:00         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1998-02-04  0:00           ` Keith Thompson
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