From: "Nick Roberts" <Nick.Roberts@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: renaming Interfaces.Java.Ada_To_Java_String to the + operator
Date: 1998/01/15
Date: 1998-01-15T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01bd21ff$7f85e3a0$95fc82c1@xhv46.dial.pipex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.884801478@merv
Robert's comment [below] is surely a valuable one in a topic which
threatened to get too general.
I have to say, however, I would still assert that something like
File_Name_1_In_Java := To_Java_String(File_Name_1);
is better than
File_Name_1_In_Java := +File_Name_1;
in the vast majority of cases. I hope this example is not felt to be
unfair by those who disagree with me.
My point is this: what is truly gained by the second version?
Unary + as a string translator is not a generally idiomatic form, although
I admit it could become one, and its use is far from obscure already. I
still think that the first form should be encouraged in commercial and
industrial practice, simply because it is more explicit. In how many cases
is the fact that it is a little longer going to really matter?
Even with a case such as
File_Name_List := (To_Java_String(Comment_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Keyword_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Command_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Function_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Movename_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Oldname_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Dictionary_List_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Thesaurus_List_File_Name),
To_Java_String(Grammar_Rule_File_Name));
could this be considered so much less preferable to, say
File_Name_List := (+Comment_File_Name,
+Keyword_File_Name,
+Command_File_Name,
+Function_File_Name,
+Movename_File_Name,
+Oldname_File_Name,
+Dictionary_List_File_Name,
+Thesaurus_List_File_Name,
+Grammar_Rule_File_Name);
where, again, I hope this example is felt to be fair.
I would suggest that the latter form, while a little 'cleaner', could still
be confusing to a reader who didn't already know that unary + had been
defined to convert strings, whereas such a reader would be likely to
correctly surmise what is going on from the first form. I would assert
that this advantage tells over the advantage of slightly cleaner or shorter
code in almost all cases. Am I missing the point?
--
Nick Roberts
Croydon, UK
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Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote in article
<dewar.884801478@merv>...
> I know people desparately want simple rules that somehow guarantee
readability,
> but the fact of the matter is that judgment is called for in most cases,
and
> having the skill to make the judgment correctly is one of the important
> skills that programmers need to have or acquire.
>
> Yes, sets of official guidelines and rules can help, but they are not a
> susbtitute for good judgment!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1998-01-15 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-01-11 0:00 renaming Interfaces.Java.Ada_To_Java_String to the + operator Terry J. Westley
1998-01-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-10 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-13 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-01-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-13 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1998-01-13 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-13 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
[not found] ` <En3Cxz.7HD@world.std.com>
1998-01-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-21 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1998-01-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-22 0:00 ` Anonymous
[not found] ` <dewar.885498969@merv>
1998-01-23 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1998-01-23 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1998-01-23 0:00 ` Anonymous
1998-01-24 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-14 0:00 ` Anonymous
1998-01-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-11 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-13 0:00 ` Terry J. Westley
1998-01-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-15 0:00 ` Nick Roberts [this message]
1998-01-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-16 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1998-01-16 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-17 0:00 ` miniscences Nick Roberts
1998-01-17 0:00 ` miniscences Robert Dewar
1998-01-19 0:00 ` renaming Interfaces.Java.Ada_To_Java_String to the + operator Anonymous
1998-01-25 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-12 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
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