From: "Veli-Pekka Nousiainen" <vp.nousiainen@remove_this_eiffel.fi>
Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake)
Date: 1997/09/02
Date: 1997-09-02T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01bcb7a6$9a820e40$108142c1@Yeif-1.eiffel.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.873171868@merv
Robert Dewar <dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu> wrote in article
<dewar.873171868@merv>...
> Paul says
>
> <<Technical superiority is not just a matter of having gee-whiz features,
> it is a matter of doing a better job.>>
>
> Sure, but who judges what is a better job. The answer is that the only
> person who can judge is the consumer. The VHS vs Beta example is a good
> one from this point of view. The tecnical folks at Sony thought that
> image quality was *the* important technical quality. But they were wrong,
> and they paid for their mistake. In fact playing time was much more
> important to the public.
>
> Now some techie may say "stupid public, they don't know what is
important",
> but it is such misjudgments by technical people on what is important that
> leaves quite a trail of business disasters behind.
>
<SNIPPEDY_SNIP>
I can *NOT* choose my programming language as a consumer of those
languages.
* * * THIS IS NOT A CONSUMER DRIVEN MARKET * * *
It is my father (my boss) who is first persuaded by MicroS*it markedroids
to believe
that you can not possibly choose a niche product no matter how superior it
is.
And man, I tell U, U'd better take this C++ deal, otherwise other bosses
think that
you've lost your marbles and do not wanna that, do U ?!!
So here I was, stuck with pile of what I have known to be (IMO) a pile of
s*it.
I LEFT THE COMPANY and now I am working with the Finnish Eiffel
Distributor.
Call this position heaven first, but I should convince the bosses that:
hey man, whut you're using now, is not gonna work. Ask your workers !!
They'll tell that Eiffel (or Ada or ...) is better. Listen to them and keep
them
happy! Otherwise U may lose your best wo/men...
Whut have happened to me, I sound like a markedroid...
Goodbye real world, welcome virtuality.
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1997-08-29 0:00 The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Ell
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Jeff Kotula
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Veli-Pekka Nousiainen [this message]
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-13 0:00 ` Mark S. Hathaway
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Des Kenny
1997-10-28 0:00 ` John English
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Des Kenny
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Darren New
1997-09-02 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` happens too often to call it historic W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-15 0:00 ` The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-09-17 0:00 Ell
1997-09-17 0:00 Ell
1997-09-17 0:00 Ell
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
1997-09-15 0:00 Ell
1997-09-16 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-17 0:00 ` Doc
[not found] <97090916235363@psavax.pwfl.com>
1997-09-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-04 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-08-30 0:00 BruceMount
1997-08-29 0:00 Ell
[not found] <5tvvsj$lh2$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-27 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-27 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
[not found] ` <5u6ovi$5kb$1@news2.digex.net>
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-25 0:00 Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-26 0:00 ` BruceMount
[not found] ` <5u0nil$atg@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` not
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
[not found] ` <5u3o1n$hu5@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-09-16 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
[not found] ` <JSA.97Aug28182029@alexandria.organon.com>
[not found] ` <3406C150.3EE5EE0E@stratasys.com>
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-02 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-15 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1997-08-26 0:00 ` Flavius.Vespasianus
[not found] ` <JSA.97Aug26153546@alexandria.organon.com>
[not found] ` <34034658.7DE14518@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-27 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <34047A7D.62319AC4@eiffel.com>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Flavius.Vespasianus
1997-08-28 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Mike Coffin
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Charles Ditzel
[not found] ` <01bcb38a$8ddc1200$1c10d30a@ntwneil>
1997-08-28 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Lee Webber
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-28 0:00 ` James P. White
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Bert Bril
1997-08-31 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Lee Webber
[not found] ` <EFn8CI.D9p@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Arthur Nelson
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
[not found] ` <EFonoz.AFC@ecf.toronto.edu>
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-06 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Mike Charlton
[not found] ` <N.19970829.uput@sisyphus.demon.co.uk>
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Mike Charlton
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Dave Sparks
[not found] ` <3402FD4D.C196785B@brightwood.com>
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Brett J. Stonier
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-29 0:00 ` Paul Johnson
1997-08-28 0:00 ` Jeff Brown
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