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From: Bradd W. Szonye <bradds@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada)
Date: 1996/04/20
Date: 1996-04-20T11:15:27-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01bb2ed5.084d0e40$65c2b7c7@Zany.localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Dq4vpD.161@world.std.com


On Friday, April 19, 1996, Robert A Duff wrote...
> In article <01bb2dcf.e0201620$c6c2b7c7@Zany.localhost>,
> Bradd W. Szonye  <bradds@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >Pardon me if this sounds silly, but...
> >You shouldn't have to rely on the documentation to make up for a lack
of
> >common sense.
> 
> Well, sorry, but it *does* sound pretty silly, to me.  Anybody who's
> been around computer software for a while knows pretty well that
> predicting what software does from some vague notion of "common sense"
> is impossible.
> 
> For example, common sense might tell you that function arguments are
> evaluated from left to right.  Not true in C, not true in Ada, not true
> in C++ (there, I made it relevant to all these newsgroups, in case
> anyone's still listening ;-) ).  These languages all go *against* common
> sense (for obscure efficiency reasons, of course).  In this case, if you
> rely on common sense, instead of reading the language standard, you'll
> get into deep trouble.
> 
> - Bob

I don't let documents substitute for common sense. That doesn't mean I
*ignore* the documentation; that would non-sensical too. Part of common
sense is experience. Experience tells you that arguments get pushed (not
evaluated) right-to-left. Experience tells you you can't count on what
order C evaluates function arguments at all. Experience tells you that if
you claim that a buffer is 1000 bytes long, it should be 1000 bytes long,
even if the standard *explicitly* says that it's okay to do otherwise
under certain circumstances.

In general, you shouldn't use every nitpicky detail of what is and isn't
legal according to the standard. Not all compilers are conformant, even if
they claim to be. Compiler vendors make mistakes too, and frequently your
only guarantee that a compiler is 100% conformant is the vendor's
assurance that it is.

I know programmers who will look up (or have memorized) the operator
precedence rules in C. These programmers will always use the minimal
number of parentheses in an expression because they know the rules
precisely. Not everyone does; maintenance programmers in particular tend
to be junior programmers who don't know all the rules. A maintenance
programmer is likely to "fix" something that looks wrong, even if it
isn't. And a maintenance programmer is likely to misinterpret some subtle
detail of a standard that the original programmer had to look up in the
first place.

My personal rule: if you have to look it up to make sure you're absolutely
right, your code may not be maintainable or portable. If you can do it
without looking it up; if it's absolutely as clear as the nose on your
face, then it's okay. For more on this, read "Writing Solid Code" by Steve
Maguire (Microsoft Press).






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1996-02-17  0:00         ` Ell
1996-02-19  0:00       ` Adam Morris
1996-02-19  0:00         ` Ian S. Nelson
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1996-02-19  0:00         ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-19  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
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1996-02-19  0:00         ` Mike Stark
1996-02-20  0:00           ` Ed Franks
1996-02-21  0:00             ` Matthew M. Lih
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
1996-02-25  0:00                 ` Thomas G. McWilliams
1996-02-25  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-25  0:00                   ` vancleef
1996-02-26  0:00                     ` Matthew M. Lih
1996-02-22  0:00             ` Bill Lee
1996-02-25  0:00               ` Ed Franks
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1996-03-15  0:00             ` AdaWorks
1996-03-15  0:00               ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-18  0:00                 ` Matt Kennel
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1996-03-18  0:00                   ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-19  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-20  0:00                       ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-20  0:00                         ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-21  0:00                         ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada(Bindings) Scott Moody
1996-03-21  0:00                         ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-20  0:00                     ` AdaWorks
1996-03-22  0:00                       ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` AdaWorks
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` David Weller
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Ed Falis
1996-03-28  0:00                       ` Kevin Cline
1996-04-04  0:00                       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-26  0:00                     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-26  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-21  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-22  0:00                     ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-21  0:00               ` Jon S Anthony
1996-03-22  0:00                 ` Kevin Cline
1996-03-30  0:00                   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-04-01  0:00                     ` Kevin Cline
1996-04-02  0:00                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-02  0:00                         ` Tom Payne
1996-04-02  0:00                         ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) David Emery
1996-04-02  0:00                           ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-03  0:00                             ` Bill Clinton
1996-04-04  0:00                               ` Forger Bubba Clinton defends David Emery of Grebyn Corp The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-04  0:00                                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-05  0:00                                   ` Kazimir Kylheku on exorcism The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-03  0:00                             ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) David Emery
1996-04-03  0:00                               ` The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-04-04  0:00                                 ` Dan Pop
1996-04-04  0:00                           ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-05  0:00                             ` David Emery
1996-04-06  0:00                               ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-05  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-05  0:00                               ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-05  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-06  0:00                                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-07  0:00                                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-10  0:00                                         ` halvin
1996-04-10  0:00                                           ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-11  0:00                                           ` Dan Pop
1996-04-12  0:00                                           ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-12  0:00                                       ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                           ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                               ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-13  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-14  0:00                                                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-15  0:00                                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-15  0:00                                               ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16  0:00                                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-12  0:00                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-11  0:00                                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-12  0:00                                       ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-12  0:00                                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-12  0:00                                       ` Tom Griest
1996-04-12  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-12  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                       ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                                         ` David Emery
1996-04-22  0:00                                       ` Mike McCarty
1996-04-22  0:00                                         ` David Emery
1996-04-05  0:00                               ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-05  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-06  0:00                                   ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-06  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16  0:00                                     ` Philip Brashear
1996-04-16  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                                         ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-06  0:00         ` Dan Pop
1996-04-07  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-07  0:00             ` Dan Pop
1996-04-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-07  0:00             ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                 ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` POSIX/Unix conformance (was: ANSI C and POSIX ...) David Emery
1996-04-12  0:00                         ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                           ` David Emery
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Dan Pop
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` James McIninch
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` Dan Pop
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Danette & Murray Root
1996-04-11  0:00                         ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Trademarks (was: Re: ANSI C and POSIX) Norman H. Cohen
1996-04-12  0:00                         ` Teresa Reiko
1996-04-07  0:00             ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                 ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10  0:00                                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-19  0:00                                   ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-23  0:00                                       ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` Mike Shannon
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                             ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                           ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-11  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-12  0:00                               ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-12  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-13  0:00                                   ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-13  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                                       ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-22  0:00                                           ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-19  0:00                                         ` David Emery
1996-04-23  0:00                                         ` Keith Thompson
1996-04-13  0:00                               ` ANSI C and POSIX Laurent Guerby
1996-04-15  0:00                                 ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-16  0:00                                     ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-16  0:00                                       ` David Emery
1996-04-17  0:00                                         ` Chuck Karish
1996-04-18  0:00                                           ` David Emery
1996-04-16  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-17  0:00                                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-19  0:00                                           ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                             ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-20  0:00                                               ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-26  0:00                                             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-04-17  0:00                                     ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-04-19  0:00                                     ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-21  0:00                                     ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-17  0:00                                   ` Joanne Galindo
1996-04-19  0:00                               ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-23  0:00                                   ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-19  0:00                                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-04-20  0:00                                   ` Bradd W. Szonye [this message]
1996-04-11  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-25  0:00                       ` BLUE
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Szu-Wen Huang
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` James McIninch
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Szu-Wen Huang
1996-04-08  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                           ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-08  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-19  0:00                         ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-20  0:00                           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-20  0:00                             ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1996-04-19  0:00                         ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-08  0:00                 ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10  0:00                                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                             ` David Emery
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` ANSI C and POSIX Laurent Guerby
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` John Marshall
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                   ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Kenneth Mays
1996-04-10  0:00                           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-10  0:00                         ` Tom Payne
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Fergus Henderson
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-09  0:00                           ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-11  0:00                           ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-11  0:00                             ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-12  0:00                               ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-13  0:00                               ` Tom Wheeley
1996-04-09  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Steve Summit
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-14  0:00                         ` ANSI C and POSIX Steve Summit
1996-04-09  0:00                   ` ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Steve Tynor
1996-04-09  0:00                     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Chet
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Tom Watson
1996-04-10  0:00                       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-12  0:00                       ` Dr S.J. Harris
1996-04-12  0:00                         ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-12  0:00                   ` Gareth Rees
1996-04-10  0:00                 ` Matt Austern
1996-04-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-10  0:00                 ` Tom Payne
1996-02-19  0:00   ` C/C++ knocks the Robert I. Eachus
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1996-02-19  0:00     ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Ramses Youhana
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1996-02-21  0:00       ` AdaWorks
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Robert S. White
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Lee Graba
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Matt Kennel
1996-02-20  0:00   ` Ketil Z Malde
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Dirk Dickmanns
1996-02-21  0:00       ` David Weller
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1996-02-22  0:00       ` Gene Ouye
1996-02-21  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-25  0:00       ` Andrew Koenig
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Gary McKee
1996-02-22  0:00     ` Bill Lee
1996-02-21  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-21  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
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1996-02-21  0:00     ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-21  0:00       ` David Weller
1996-02-22  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-22  0:00   ` C/C++ ... " Norman H. Cohen
1996-02-23  0:00     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00   ` C/C++ knocks the crap " Ketil Z Malde
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1996-02-18  0:00               ` Ray Toal
1996-02-18  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-17  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Matt Kennel
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Large Scale OO Development (was Re: C/C++ knocks the ....) Don Harrison
1996-02-19  0:00             ` C/C++ knocks the Jon S Anthony
1996-02-20  0:00               ` Ray Toal
1996-02-20  0:00                 ` David Weller
1996-02-21  0:00                 ` John DiCamillo
1996-02-23  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-23  0:00               ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-25  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
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1996-02-17  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-22  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-22  0:00                     ` Ted Dennison
1996-02-19  0:00           ` Pete Becker
1996-02-20  0:00             ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-20  0:00               ` Andrew Koenig
1996-02-21  0:00                 ` Jay Martin
1996-02-21  0:00                 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-25  0:00                   ` J Greene
1996-02-26  0:00                     ` Peter Finney
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1996-02-21  0:00               ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-26  0:00                 ` Matthew B. Kennel
1996-02-27  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-27  0:00                     ` ron thompson
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1996-02-22  0:00               ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-02-22  0:00                 ` design never happens? Gary McKee
1996-02-22  0:00                 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Robert Dewar
1996-02-23  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-22  0:00               ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-24  0:00               ` Ray Toal
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` JR Crosmer
1996-02-27  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-24  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-26  0:00                 ` James O'Connor
1996-02-23  0:00             ` Tom Payne
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1996-02-18  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19  0:00             ` AdaWorks
1996-02-23  0:00             ` Ghost In The Machine
1996-02-24  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-25  0:00                 ` Ghost In The Machine
1996-02-19  0:00           ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-19  0:00             ` Ian S. Nelson
1996-02-21  0:00             ` Peter Seebach
1996-02-19  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-21  0:00           ` Ramses Youhana
1996-02-21  0:00           ` Peter Seebach
1996-02-21  0:00           ` Peter Seebach
1996-02-20  0:00     ` Ketil Z Malde
1996-02-20  0:00     ` Matt Austern
1996-02-23  0:00     ` Matthias Blume
1996-02-25  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-26  0:00   ` Matt Austern
1996-02-26  0:00   ` Matt Austern
1996-03-15  0:00 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-16  0:00   ` Jay Martin
1996-03-17  0:00     ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-19  0:00     ` Sheldon White
1996-03-20  0:00       ` Jay Martin
1996-03-16  0:00 ` Jay Martin
1996-03-20  0:00   ` David Taylor
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1996-03-15  0:00       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Ian Johnston (by ubsswop)
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-15  0:00         ` Jay Martin
1996-03-15  0:00       ` Peter Seebach
1996-03-16  0:00       ` Zsoter Andras
1996-03-19  0:00         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-21  0:00         ` Glenn H. Porter
1996-03-17  0:00       ` Unix Haters Alan Brain
1996-03-22  0:00         ` moi
1996-03-24  0:00           ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-24  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00               ` Wallace E. Owen
1996-03-26  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                   ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-27  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-27  0:00                       ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-28  0:00                   ` Kenneth Mays
1996-03-26  0:00                 ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-26  0:00           ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-03-26  0:00           ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-04-01  0:00             ` Anthony Shih Hao Lee
1996-03-26  0:00           ` Erik W. Anderson
1996-03-27  0:00           ` Verne Arase
1996-03-27  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Robert L. Spooner, AD3K
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Dan Pop
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Robert Crawford
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Gary Fiber
1996-03-28  0:00               ` Jeff Dege
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-28  0:00               ` James McIninch
1996-03-28  0:00                 ` Ian Ward
1996-03-28  0:00                   ` Larry Weiss
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Laurence Barea
1996-04-02  0:00                     ` Ian Ward
1996-04-08  0:00                       ` Laurence Barea
1996-04-09  0:00                         ` Ian Ward
1996-03-29  0:00               ` Verne Arase
1996-03-30  0:00               ` fredex
1996-03-31  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-10  0:00                     ` Steve Detoni
1996-04-11  0:00                       ` Lawrence Kirby
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-01  0:00                     ` Tom Payne
1996-04-01  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-04  0:00                       ` Dan Pop
1996-04-05  0:00                       ` Edwin Lim
1996-04-06  0:00                       ` Wallace E. Owen
1996-04-01  0:00                   ` Dan Pop
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1996-04-04  0:00                     ` sfms
1996-03-30  0:00               ` Thomas Koenig
1996-03-31  0:00               ` Kengo Hashimoto
1996-04-02  0:00                 ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-04-02  0:00                   ` The Amorphous Mass
1996-04-02  0:00               ` Max Waterman
1996-03-27  0:00             ` Richard Pitre
1996-03-20  0:00       ` Ada Parsing Tools (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) John Woodruff
1996-03-20  0:00       ` Mike Young
1996-03-21  0:00         ` Kazimir Kylheku
1996-03-21  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00           ` 
1996-03-22  0:00             ` 
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1996-03-15  0:00           ` Logic (was " Peter Seebach
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1996-03-15  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
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1996-03-18  0:00                 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-21  0:00                   ` Gripe about Ada, rep specs that won't Doug Rogers
1996-03-20  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-21  0:00                       ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-21  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                           ` Ken Garlington
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-21  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                           ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-22  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-23  0:00                               ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-23  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-24  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
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1996-03-25  0:00                                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-25  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                           ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26  0:00                                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                               ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-26  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                               ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-26  0:00                                                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25  0:00                                 ` Doug Rogers
1996-03-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                             ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                     ` Pascal OBRY
1996-03-22  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                     ` Laurent Guerby
1996-03-22  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-22  0:00                         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-22  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25  0:00                     ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-25  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-19  0:00                 ` C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Charles H. Sampson
1996-03-19  0:00                   ` Peter Seebach
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1996-03-29  0:00             ` mich
1996-03-21  0:00       ` Ron Collins
1996-03-28  0:00   ` Unix Haters Dan Pop
1996-03-30  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby
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1996-04-01  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Mike Young
1996-04-11  0:00             ` morphis
1996-04-11  0:00               ` James McIninch
1996-04-11  0:00                 ` morphis
1996-04-12  0:00                 ` Teresa Reiko
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Dan Pop
1996-04-03  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-04  0:00               ` Dan Pop
1996-04-01  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-04-02  0:00   ` Ralf Graf
1996-04-12  0:00 ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Chuck Karish
1996-04-11  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-04-20  0:00   ` Bradd W. Szonye
1996-04-21  0:00     ` Mike Rubenstein
1996-04-22  0:00       ` Tom Payne
1996-04-22  0:00         ` Peter Seebach
1996-04-21  0:00     ` Danette & Murray Root
1996-04-23  0:00       ` Bradd W. Szonye
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