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From: William C. Brennan <brennan@netaxs.com>
Subject: Re: Announce: Grace project site operational
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:10:30 GMT
Date: 2002-05-11T18:10:30+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01HW.B902D67F000816480DFC0B90@netnews.netaxs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: TP7CiYvFfPBT@eisner.encompasserve.org

On Wed, 8 May 2002 12:31:44 -0400, Larry Kilgallen wrote
(in message <TP7CiYvFfPBT@eisner.encompasserve.org>):

> In article <3CD94E63.3050607@mail.com>, Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com> 
> writes:
> 
> And as an Ada programmer, I thank you for that diligence.
> I have a lot of "count" types in a program I am working on
> currently, and I would appreciate it if packages provided
> that, in the spirit of Ada.
> 

For my own personal preference, I have to weigh in with Larry here.  
In the "spirit of Ada" (oh, it feels good to wrap one's self in the flag ;-)) I use a 
unique type for whatever I'm counting: electrons, meters, apple-pushcarts, apples, 
or "items".  In fact, it still disappoints me (slightly) that the Ada 83 language 
team failed to create String indexed by its own Character_Index type.

I'm a little surprised to hear, at least as sampled in this tiny forum, that so many
Ada fans are quick to give up the same benefits for counting objects 
as they are for counting things with more traditionally defined units.  It has always 
given me a nice fuzzy feeling that I know I can't accidentally substitue number_of_apple_
carts for number_of_apples in exactly the same way I feel secure that I can't subsititute 
seconds for hours.  It never felt like "overkill" to me, and I don't think this philosophy
leads to an explosion of unique types.  Using Integer (and its sisters Natural and
Positive) just absolutely reeks of C's int, and I avoid it whenever I can.  Of course,
I use Strings, so I can't avoid it as much as I would like. ;-)
It's my style - no not just mine... it's the Ada style. ;-)  (So have I shamed the 
rest of you into it yet?)

So, anyway, it would be nice if the container packages didn't force me to use Natural to
count my apple_carts when I don't wouldn't use this type myself.  It would be a *small* 
inconvenience to specify the counting type as the actual generic parameter.


-- 
Bill Brennan
brennan@netaxs.com




  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-11 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-08  2:38 Announce: Grace project site operational Ted Dennison
2002-05-08  2:48 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-08 12:46   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-08 13:33     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 19:54       ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-09 20:22         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-10 14:59           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10 18:54           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-10 14:17       ` Larry Hazel
2002-05-10 14:46         ` David C. Hoos
2002-05-10 15:38         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-11 14:17           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 16:58             ` martin.m.dowie
2002-05-11 18:55               ` William C. Brennan
2002-05-11 20:10               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-12  8:53                 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-05-13 13:18               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-13 13:07             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 15:18               ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 15:45                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-15 19:56                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16 13:44                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 17:02                 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 14:57                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-15 15:31                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-16 21:57                       ` tmoran
2002-05-17  1:55                       ` tmoran
2002-05-17 13:12                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-18  1:44                           ` tmoran
2002-05-15 15:54                     ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 17:33                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-15 17:04                         ` David C. Hoos
2002-05-15 22:59                     ` tmoran
2002-05-16 13:36                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-16 13:43                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-16 14:51                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 15:34                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-20 13:47                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-21 14:23                             ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-21 17:24                               ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-21 17:52                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-22 16:20                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-28  8:22                                     ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-22 16:16                                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 11:06                     ` John English
2002-05-16 13:52                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 16:40                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-14 17:50                 ` tmoran
2002-05-14 18:07                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 18:12                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-14 18:52                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15  8:17                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 18:30                           ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16  9:16                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-16 19:42                               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-17  8:35                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-20 17:08                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-21  8:34                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-21 15:57                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-22  7:48                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-22 11:40                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-22 15:05                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-22 16:14                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-22 16:31                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-23 11:40                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15  8:44                         ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-15 18:15                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-15 18:39                             ` Darren New
2002-05-15 19:34                               ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15 23:52                                 ` Darren New
2002-05-16  7:39                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-16 15:35                                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 17:55                                       ` Brian Rogoff
2002-05-16 13:35                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 15:50                                     ` Darren New
2002-05-16 16:28                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-17 15:14                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:08                                         ` Darren New
2002-05-17 16:41                                           ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:43                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:24                                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-17 15:03                                     ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 15:27                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 16:20                                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:46                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-18  6:14                                         ` Simon Wright
2002-05-17 15:44                                       ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-17 16:09                                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-05-17 16:48                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-17 21:11                                           ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-21  8:45                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 19:24                             ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-15 23:33                         ` tmoran
2002-05-16 13:48                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-16 14:39                             ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-14 19:10                       ` tmoran
2002-05-14 19:58                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 19:42           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-11 20:16             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-11 19:49           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-13 15:44             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13 16:16               ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-13 17:10               ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-13 19:07                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 20:21                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-14 15:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-14 16:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-14 16:30                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 19:16               ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-13 19:19               ` Simon Wright
2002-05-11  1:23         ` Richard Riehle
2002-05-11 12:27           ` Marc A. Criley
2002-05-08 16:12     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-08 16:31       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-08 17:16         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09  9:50           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-09 13:32             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 13:54             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-09 14:23               ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-05-09 20:02                 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-09 20:44                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-10 13:06                     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-10 16:23                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-10 18:57                         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-10 18:58                     ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-10  8:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10  9:12                     ` GRACE web site (was Announce: Grace project site operationa)l David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-05-10 14:33                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10 16:17                         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-13 14:07                           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13 16:04                             ` Darren New
2002-05-10 19:00                     ` Announce: Grace project site operational Randy Brukardt
2002-05-13  8:10                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10 19:35                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-13  8:01                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-10 10:25                   ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-05-09 20:53               ` Simon Wright
2002-05-10  8:29               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-14 15:03                 ` John English
2002-05-15  8:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 10:38                     ` John English
2002-05-15 11:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-15 18:10                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 14:03           ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-09 15:38             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-11 18:10         ` William C. Brennan [this message]
2002-05-08 22:00       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-09  5:39         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-09 14:21         ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-25 22:03           ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-08 14:32 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-10 14:46   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-10  7:47 ` fraser
2002-05-10 14:55   ` Ted Dennison
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-15  9:58 Grein, Christoph
2002-05-15 16:12 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-15 11:32 Grein, Christoph
2002-05-15 13:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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