From: David Kristola <David95037@See-My.Sig>
Subject: Re: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 1:36:57 -0800
Date: 2001-01-27T01:36:57-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01HW.B697D6B90004973007028CDC@news.pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A71E168.FC629B19@ix.netcom.com
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:43:20 -0800, Lao Xiao Hai (Richard Riehle) wrote
(in message <3A71E168.FC629B19@ix.netcom.com>):
> Robert Dewar wrote:
>> In article <3A6CEA26.90EACF3D@ix.netcom.com>,
>> Lao Xiao Hai <laoxhai@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Tucker Taft wrote:
>>>> I believe THAAD has settled on C++.
>>>
>>> Clearly an irresponsible decision on the part of somebody.
>>
>> That may be a little unfair. Most choices of programming
>> languages are made not on the basis of technical excellence
>> of the language, but rather on the basis of familiarity with
>> a particular language. That's not necessarily irresponsible,
>> since familiarity is an important factor.
>
> Perhaps I am being unfair. However, the current THAAD software
> is programmed in Ada 83. I am not sure that slouching toward C++
> is as easy as transitioning existing software to a new version of the
> same language. Am I wrong? Is it easier to convert Ada 83 code
> to C++ or to Ada 95?
>
> Then again, is it unreasonable to expect the decision for a major Dod
> weapon system to be made on the basis of technical excellence rather
> than on the basis of someone's personal preference for a language that
> does more to enhance their resume than to do the job right?
>
> If I am being unfair, so be it. This is warfighting software. When
> it comes
> to war, there is no such thing as fair.
I worked on THAAD, and know some of the players in this. A number of
them are very good engineers who simply don't like Ada as much as the
rest of us. Why? I'm not sure. I would also guess that these
particular people are Lockheed Martin lifers, so i doubt they are
looking to add C++ to their resumes so they can move on.
As for conversion, i too would think it easier to go to Ada95 from what
they had previously. I'm not sure how much the computing hardware has
changed from Dem/Val to EMD. If the hardware is very different (and
several years have gone by since Dem/Val started), the software could
be in for a major overhaul anyway.
Don't get me wrong. I think they made a mistake going to C++. Still,
i have to wish them good luck, and hope for the best. There are some
good people working on THAAD, hopefully they will do well.
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2000-12-31 16:09 What to Do? Petra Lynn Hofman
2000-12-31 16:58 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-31 17:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-01 15:24 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 15:14 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 21:22 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 15:15 ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-31 18:06 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-12-31 21:07 ` tmoran
2001-01-01 16:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:08 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-01 17:53 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: " Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-01 18:29 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-01 20:25 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 19:03 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:22 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 22:23 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 22:27 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-01 20:26 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 19:05 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:24 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 22:53 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-03 18:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-03 19:22 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-04 1:18 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-01 19:28 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-02 14:56 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-03 3:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-04 1:02 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-04 3:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-04 12:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-04 13:48 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-01-06 20:23 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-04 17:09 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-04 20:30 ` Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-05 9:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 9:57 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-01-05 10:41 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 13:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05 14:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-06 17:17 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 8:51 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 4:00 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 10:20 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 12:34 ` Karel Thoenissen
2001-01-09 14:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 15:29 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-01-09 19:25 ` tmoran
2001-01-09 20:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-09 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 2:08 ` Keith Thompson
[not found] ` <93e2d1$spv$1@ <3A5B054B.3CF03325@hello.nl>
2001-01-09 22:05 ` Simon Wright
2001-01-05 15:35 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-01-05 19:20 ` Object naming conventions (was: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software?) Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-06 17:30 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 17:24 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 9:14 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 0:28 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-09 8:35 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 2:21 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-09 2:34 ` DuckE
2001-01-09 4:12 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 9:12 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 12:24 ` David Gillon
2001-01-09 12:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-01-09 13:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-09 14:00 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-12 0:21 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-12 1:24 ` Al Christians
2001-01-12 5:19 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-12 18:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-09 14:27 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 15:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 19:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-10 13:49 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 20:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 23:04 ` tmoran
2001-01-27 16:58 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2001-01-10 16:37 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-10 19:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-11 1:43 ` Frank Manning
2001-01-09 16:12 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 19:48 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:43 ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-01-10 20:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 13:41 ` JOVIAL (was Do we need "Mission-Critical" software?) Ken Garlington
2001-01-12 15:32 ` carr_tom
2001-01-12 16:58 ` Ira D. Baxter
2001-01-22 23:18 ` jls
2001-01-13 14:20 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 10:41 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? David Kristola
2001-01-10 13:44 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 21:39 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 11:47 ` n_brunot
2001-01-10 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-10 21:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 10:00 ` n_brunot
2001-01-12 0:42 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-12 1:47 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-12 16:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-16 19:52 ` Do we need any Dewar-bashing? Wes Groleau
2001-01-09 19:03 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? dmitry6243
2001-01-09 19:51 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:46 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-09 21:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-10 8:55 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-10 13:39 ` Pascal Obry
2001-01-11 8:58 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-11 21:01 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 11:41 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-12 20:29 ` Subprogram types vs. "limited access" (was " mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 21:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-13 1:35 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 1:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 17:29 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-15 21:06 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 0:32 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 2:57 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 5:47 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 17:47 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 9:12 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-16 20:04 ` Wes Groleau
2001-02-02 6:45 ` Java packages (was " mark_lundquist
2001-01-15 20:04 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-15 20:28 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-15 21:05 ` tmoran
2001-01-16 0:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 13:23 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-15 21:44 ` Tucker Taft
2001-01-15 22:26 ` BSCrawford
2001-01-23 2:19 ` Lao Xiao Hai
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2001-01-26 20:43 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-27 9:36 ` David Kristola [this message]
2001-01-27 21:54 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-27 23:09 ` Pat Rogers
2001-01-28 22:30 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-09 13:37 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-12 1:11 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-09 14:52 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-10 10:26 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 21:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 18:51 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-11 20:11 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 11:49 ` Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-12 19:19 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 20:20 ` Wes Groleau
2001-01-04 16:48 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-05 13:15 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-06 20:19 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 21:37 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 21:44 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-03 4:00 ` William Starner
2001-01-01 23:44 ` David Kristola
2001-01-02 0:41 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-02 3:14 ` tmoran
2001-01-02 20:35 ` David Kristola
2001-01-02 22:56 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 7:38 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-02 15:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:59 ` What to Do? Silly Valley JF Harrison
2001-01-02 23:22 ` William Dale
2001-01-06 20:45 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-08 18:15 ` William Dale
2001-01-08 19:00 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-08 19:01 ` Florian Weimer
2000-12-31 21:47 ` What to Do? Robert Love
2001-01-01 21:31 ` Robert Love
2001-01-10 22:06 ` km0762
2001-01-10 22:06 ` km0762
2001-01-11 0:00 ` James Rogers
2001-01-11 1:03 ` Al Christians
2001-01-29 16:09 ` spider_templar2
2001-01-11 13:57 ` John English
2001-01-11 18:00 ` William Dale
2001-01-12 0:27 ` John English
2001-01-12 2:57 ` David Botton
2001-01-13 3:34 ` Petra Lynn Hofman
2001-01-13 6:05 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 13:52 ` Ken Garlington
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