From: "David Kristola" <David95037@See-My.Sig>
Subject: Desirability of C++ (was Re: Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada))
Date: 2000/04/14
Date: 2000-04-14T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01HW.B51C1B6E00F41C2D04BB51B0@news.pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:36:55 -0700, Robert B. Love wrote (in message
<7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net>):
> Both the Part Task Trainer and the Full Task Trainer are written in Ada. But
> I keep hearing that people want future version written in C++. Why people
> would want to mess with working code is beyond me. What I want to know is
> how do we keep Ada in the forefront? Why is there an air of desirablity to
> C++?
I'm sure this is an over-simplification, but the some of the excuses i hear
around the Missiles & Space campus go something like this:
(software engineer) I want to learn C++ on the job so that i can get a real
job.
(manager) If we switch to C++, we will be able to hire programmers.
Note that there are lots of C++ jobs in the Bay Area, and those jobs pay well,
or so goes the rumor.
There are lots of C++ software people in the area, but would they work were i
work even if the work was in C++? Can i work "work" into this paragraph a few
more times? I think the answer to both of these questions is best assumed to
be "no".
I think part of the problem is "better" got lost in the rush for "cheaper" when
we started "faster, better, cheaper". In the long run, it won't be cheaper,
especially if we try to make missiles or spacecraft the way commercial
companies make software.
Now for the tough question; how do we keep Ada in the forefront? One way to
start is to put the "better" back in. Ada is a big help in this area.
--djk
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2000-02-04 0:00 where can we get a job with ada HollymaN
2000-02-03 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-04 0:00 ` EKoerber
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-05 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-06 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Gareth
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Gareth
2000-02-08 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-02-11 0:00 ` where can we ... [off topic] Nick Roberts
2000-02-07 0:00 ` where can we get a job with ada Simon Brady
2000-02-12 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-28 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-03-04 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-03-05 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-05 0:00 ` Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada) Vladimir Olensky
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-04-03 0:00 ` Andrew Thomas Wilson
2000-04-12 0:00 ` David Hoffman
2000-04-13 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-04-14 0:00 ` David Kristola [this message]
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ (was Re: Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada)) Wes Groleau
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-04-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-23 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2000-04-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-30 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-04-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Application in Ada (was Desirability of C++) Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Lionel Draghi
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Michael P. Walsh
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Bill Greene
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Al Christians
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Delphi Strings (was Re: Desirability of C++) Ray Blaak
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Pascal Obry
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-05 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-05 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Strings TP/Ada (was Desirability of C++) Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Keith Thompson
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-11 0:00 ` wv12
2000-05-11 0:00 ` Frank J. Lhota
2000-05-11 0:00 ` Warner Bruns
2000-05-18 0:00 ` Warner Bruns
2000-05-19 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-24 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
2000-05-18 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
2000-05-08 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-05-10 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-05-10 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-04-29 0:00 ` Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada) Chris Johnston
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
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2000-05-01 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-22 0:00 ` where can we get a job with ada Florian Weimer
2000-03-05 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-02-06 0:00 ` David Tannen
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