From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fa74c025e28ca900,start X-Google-Thread: 11390f,fa74c025e28ca900,start X-Google-Thread: f8131,fa74c025e28ca900,start X-Google-Thread: 10ad19,fa74c025e28ca900,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid11390f,gidf8131,gid10ad19,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out04b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in01.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!news.alt.net From: vefev@yahoo.com Newsgroups: comp.jobs.offered,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.asm370,comp.lang.awk Subject: M,I`5'Pe rsecution ' bugg ing a nd counter-surve illance Followup-To: comp.jobs.offered,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.asm370,comp.lang.awk,uk.misc Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 08:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com Message-ID: Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19117 comp.lang.apl:3961 comp.lang.asm370:781 comp.lang.awk:7489 Date: 2008-01-01T08:52:47+00:00 List-Id: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= MI5: bugging. and counter-surveillance -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PO: >Did you ever look for. the bugs in your house ? If not, why not ? I mean if PO: >I thought that was happening to me, I'd search the place from top. to bottom, PO: >I mean I live there I. would know if anything was out of place. If I was PO: >really suspicious,. I would call in one of those bug detection teams which PO: >have those. machines that pick up the transmitted radio waves. This PO: >reminds. me of BUGS, that new programme on BBC1 on That's exactly what we did. We went. to a competent, professional detective agency in London, paid. them over 400 quid to debug our house. They used scanner devices. which go to over 1 GHz and would pick up any nearby transmitter in that range, they also checked the. phones and found nothing.... but if the tap was at the exchange, then they wouldn't find anything, would. they? CS: >Doesn't this suggest to you that there are, in fact, no. bugs to be found? You can assume that they've done this sort of thing to other. people in more "serious" cases, where. they would know the targets would suspect the presence of electronic surveillance.. So they will have developed techniques and devices which are not readily detectable either. by visual inspection or by electronic means. What those techniques. might be, I couldn't guess. In this case, the. existence of bugging devices was clear from the beginning, and they "rubbed it in" with what was said. by the boy on the coach.. It was almost as if they wanted counter-surveillance people to be called in, who they. knew would fail to detect the bugging devices, causing loss of credibility to the other things I would have to. say relating to the harassment. I did all the things someone in my situation would do to try to. find the bugs.. In addition to calling in professional help using electronic counter-surveillance, I made a. close visual inspection of electrical equipment, plus any points where audio or. video surveillance devices might have been concealed. Of. course, I found nothing. Normal surveillance "mini-cameras" are quite. noticeable and require visible supporting circuitry. It seems to me the. best place to put a small video surveillance device would be additional to a piece of. electronic equipment such as a TV or video. It would be necessary to physically. break in to a property to fit such. a device. 2767