From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e26dfa741e64e5f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:21:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:21:50 -0400 From: Jeff Creem User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available - A Vote and some other comments References: <432919be$0$10539$4d4eb98e@read.news.fr.uu.net> <1126773856.876636.265130@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126794444.071827.191320@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8764t2f994.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> In-Reply-To: <8764t2f994.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.147.74.171 X-Trace: sv3-OLvbakWXhYEz1FzRuZwYLwFncZh+awZSF5SH72Mh4oAH8qTWdib7M9nEpW6InIXWRNhLbeic+hl9E+E!wUGeMrHSgUjRPZGYN9yspSVGomqy1rgNzSxf6f54CKL8oFi2eaHQJkTMHffoi4NATCMC509Zhw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4770 Date: 2005-09-15T19:21:50-04:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: > "Ludovic Brenta" writes: > >>OK, here are the votes so far. > > > With the large number of responses, here is an update: > > Voter gnat-gpl gnat-3.4 gnat-4.0 gnat-3.4+patches > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Adrian Wrigley -1 > Andreas Schwartz -1 > Brian May 1 1 > Chris Danx -1 1 > Jacob Sparre Andersen -1 1 2 > Jeffrey Carter -1 > Marc A. Criley -1 1 2 > Niklas Holsti -1 > Samuel Tardieu -1 1 2 > Simon Clubley -1 1 2 > Stéphane Rivière -1 1 2 > > TOTALS: -9 5 12 0 > > As before, please feel free to add to this matrix or amend your vote > as necessary. In the mean time, this looks like a landslide, I hope > AdaCore is listening :) > I vote against gnat-gpl. Any other the others seem fine and may be based on what sort of a quality product can be built. Note I don't really have that big of a problem with the AdaCore approach. It limits the applicability of their free distribution but we all seem to crave an AdaCore blessed release which implies we feel they add value. They want to encourage people that can pay for support to pay for support. People generally are happy with the FSF version of GCC for their C,C++ work and don't complain that Wind River charges for their blessed version (and offers no free GPL only version or any other version for public download). The biggest problems with the FSF tree are: 1) Ada quality is not considered as part of the release criterea. 2) Only real activity is in head (mostly because the majority of the activity is from AdaCore) 3) Lack of (or at least difficult to configure) some of the supporting tools such as ASIS. To answer the other question that went along with this poll. I currently use WindowsXP with mingw, recently added the gnat-gpl-2005 from adacore for testing purposes, also use CentOS 4 for my 2 Linux boxes with the distributions version of gcc/ada. As for debian. Many years ago I used debian. I was relatively happy with it. At some point when moving to new hardware I looked around again and went redhat 7 then redhat 9 on the following upgrade based upon what seemed like some more recent libaries for Gtk/GNOME. After a short stint at fedora core 1 I settled on CentOS given that many of the bigger companies only claim redhat enterprise support (this making Redhat based distributions the preferred version at work). So, the logical choice at home was then Centos.