From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 108717,c1d77749223627c8 X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,8802fe2212b159e1 X-Google-Thread: 114809,8802fe2212b159e1 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6cd90863b65ff36b X-Google-Attributes: gid108717,gid1108a1,gid114809,gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!207.217.77.102!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!01cc3b7c!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Richard Riehle" From: "Richard Riehle" Newsgroups: comp.programming,comp.object,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada References: <1hk5j2d3dlmrp$.153lae83darml$.dlg@40tude.net> <40f29222@alpha.wvnet.edu> <104x9d9d53127$.1b8jq22ldf2js.dlg@40tude.net> <40f2ee18@alpha.wvnet.edu> <8yhg4xv40agi.ly9pgul3h7jw$.dlg@40tude.net> <40f3ceee@alpha.wvnet.edu> <19iip59qsl122$.3g3hicltra17.dlg@40tude.net> <40f5bbe1@alpha.wvnet.edu> <40f67c13@alpha.wvnet.edu> <9qTRc.61502$M95.25853@pd7tw1no> <411C5D2F.5070408@acm.org> Subject: Re: Static vs. Dynamic typing (big advantage or not)---WAS: c.programming: OOP and memory management X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:39:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.81.217.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1092875999 66.81.217.143 (Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:39:59 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:39:59 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.programming:8402 comp.object:5790 comp.lang.smalltalk:2535 comp.lang.ada:2827 Date: 2004-08-19T00:39:59+00:00 List-Id: "Kelly Hall" wrote in message news:XtOUc.4483$QJ3.4254@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > Jeff Brooks wrote: > > > The problem is static type checking is a very weak form of testing. > > That's because most programming languages have very weak type systems. > I strongly advocate beefier type systems. > > As long as you're willing to write every test case you care about - no > wonder you want to spend less time in the editor :) As a formal methods > guy, I'd much rather write one proof and ignore a whole class of test > cases. Ideally, my compiler would do most of the proofs for me. But > we're not there yet - more's the pity. > May I suggest you take a serious look at the Praxis Software SPARK development model. As "a formal methods guy," you will probably appreciate the contribution of SPARK. Richard Riehle