From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-14 07:12:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed3.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:12:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:12:43 -0400 From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping References: <107m6cdmda7f639@corp.supernews.com> <407D235B.2040004@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: <407D235B.2040004@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.147.90.114 X-Trace: sv3-hbGBpqVMnHMkW2es4glkZi9suLAwWXjccV+Xv/4X72/1Tt2cEA8Xyvp/P7zPqPqSkGAJkpPALfn4SRB!O2xpvPEOASzEASKvfhcUBeyvcSYLuZxd0HJCwkQDZKXgQdvr+DEGud7XFdC0ZA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7091 Date: 2004-04-14T10:12:43-04:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Personally, I'd like to think that there *was* some hope that Ada could > gain in market acceptance and - if not become the dominant language of > the future - at least carve out a nice, healthy, growing segment of the > software market. Ada does "own" a nice, healthy growing segment of the software market. I thought that the thrust of this discussion was that the safety-critical portion of the market was too small, and Ada needed to acquire other market segments where it dominates. Personally, I think that the need for web servers for companies doing web commerce is an area where Ada's strengths will eventually mean that it is needed to avoid the hazards associated with other languages. There is a large, nasty group of crackers out there, and if they ever sniff out the ability to redirect the billions of dollars in e-commerce transactions into their accounts, financially safe software will be in great demand. So I think the best way to grow the demand for Ada is to focus on things like AWS. It is currently possible to create robust e-commerce software using Apache and other tools, but it is painful. Did you ever wonder why many e-commerce sites have a shopping basket, then you go to checkout to pay for what you selected? This allows all of the checkout process to be separate, and use https, etc. So only the checkout software needs to be bulletproof. -- Robert I. Eachus "The terrorist enemy holds no territory, defends no population, is unconstrained by rules of warfare, and respects no law of morality. Such an enemy cannot be deterred, contained, appeased or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed--and that, ladies and gentlemen, is the business at hand." -- Dick Cheney