From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!voer-me.highwinds-media.com!npeersf04.am4!fx10.fr7.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Brian Drummond Subject: Re: Cross-toolchain for DS [was: Newcomers to comp.lang.ada: welcome and how did you end up here ?] Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <87h9zdpi84.fsf@ixod.org> <87fvex5bwy.fsf@ixod.org> <2064812074434669488.767131laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.49.20.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: 1413367134 62.49.20.82 (Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:58:54 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:58:54 UTC Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:58:54 GMT X-Received-Body-CRC: 365526979 X-Received-Bytes: 2319 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22501 Date: 2014-10-15T09:58:54+00:00 List-Id: On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 10:56:07 +0000, Natasha Kerensikova wrote: > Hello, > > > On the other hand, how wide is the availability of > LLVM-to-embedded-target back-end? It's not much of a progress if C and > Ada are equal at "limited to desktop targets" point. I believe LLVM has narrower coverage than gcc, but still quite reasonable. The MSP430 backend is news to me! Of course the mere existence of a backend doesn't necessarily mean it'll work seamlessly with less mainstream front ends (but probably more seamlessly than in gcc). > The reason why I'm asking, is I'm stilling working on updating gela and > building on it a RTS-limited LLVM-based Ada 95 compiler seems realistic > (albeit far away down the road). How is that coming along? For me, Gela built successfully, and I started to look at connecting it to an intermediate representation which already has translators to gcc and experimentally, LLVM (and more, specifically a JIT targetting x86, which would make a very lightweight compiler). But got no further, so far. The existing translator from a semanticised tree into this IR would serve as a pattern, but it's quite a large chunk of code... - Brian