From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: AW: AW: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:31:47 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8d5kbAkkBa3IR2Qx5Cb32k0NHrs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.222.69 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1170080819 88.72.222.69 (29 Jan 2007 15:26:59 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.germany.com!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8711 Date: 2007-01-29T15:31:47+01:00 List-Id: "Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)" writes: > Markus E Leypold wrote: >>> Fact is: The students were not able to finish the job, so they were >>> given more and more source. And even with 60%, they were still not able. > >> See my comment on the helpfullness of help in another articel. I've Wow, I hate to see the number of spelling errors NNTP introduces in my articles every time. I swear they were word perfect when they left my news reader. I swear!!! (Note to self: Never forget to use flyspell-mode ...) >> only been trying to put forward a general point of view on the idea >> that more help brings the students nearer to success in any case. > You're absolutely correct on this, no help and also more help up to > 60% did not help the students finish their work in C. > > On the other hand, using Ada they were able to finish. This is the > very definite result of the study - contrary to what was expected by > the instructor. > (Wannst 'as g'lesen h�ttst, dadst ned so daherredn :-) I definitely should read the study. As I said: Not now. I can't continue to discuss on this branch any more for lack of having done my homework :-). So please excuse this student here. My other arguments, that suitability of language is only a small factor in the decision for a certain language / development system and the final quality of the system delivered, still stands. Yes I'd wish Linux was written in Ada, and yes I'd wish people would use Ada instead of C. But I also would wish to be a bit more independent from the vagaries of AdaCore and that there would be more incentive or will to actually release a high quality free compiler (with a GMGPL runtime, mind you). Etc. Never mind. Regards -- Markus