From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fec54,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gidfec54,public X-Google-Thread: 108abf,670aa2795fbf5078 X-Google-Attributes: gid108abf,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10ab2c,28f46de42acbd47 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ab2c,public From: hoKEy wOLf Subject: Re: Boeing Begins Flight Testing F-22 Block 3S Avionics Date: 2000/04/28 Message-ID: X-Deja-AN: 617013534 References: <390721ce_4@news4.newsfeeds.com> <1JHN4.122$wb7.9308@news.flash.net> <39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com> <17IN4.169$wb7.9885@news.flash.net> <390768F4.9FCE513@home.com> <8e7vio$28f$10@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <8e8c15$ai3$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net> <8eauub$1g2$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com> Organization: yep User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC) Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,comp.lang.ada,alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band Date: 2000-04-28T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <8eauub$1g2$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com>, "counterpoint: jim carleton" wrote: > This, from hoKEy wOLf: > > >In article <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net>, "Ken Garlington" > > wrote: > > > >> "hoKEy wOLf" wrote in message > >> news:yep-7663B5.19194027042000@allnews.infi.net... > >> > In article <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com>, David Kim > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > "counterpoint: jim carleton" > >> > > finally > >> > > loses it: > >> > > > >> > > >This, from Axel: > >> > > > > >> > > >>David Castrodale proves the law of fives: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>>Ken Garlington wrote: > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> "Tarver Engineering" wrote in message > >> > > >>>> news:39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com... > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Ah, now I see what's been confusing you! > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > I am not in the least confused Ken and in fact it is yourself > >> that > >> > > >>>> > has had > >> > > >>>> > to make major modifications to your original statements to > >> > > >>>> > maintain any > >> > > >>>> kind > >> > > >>>> > of credibility. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> a) Cite "major modifications"? (I know, it's a waste of > >> > > >>>> bandwidth > >> to > >> > > >>>> ask for > >> > > >>>> justification from a tarver generator -- sort of like asking a > >> > > >>>> fart > >> > > >>>> why it > >> > > >>>> smells -- but I always feel obliged to make the point...) > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> b) If you're not confused, then I assume the strange claim that > >> > > >>>> there's a > >> > > >>>> sudden 5+ month slip in the F-22 schedule was just a tarver. > >> > > >>>> I'll > >> > > >>>> give you a > >> > > >>>> double-tarver if you make it a 10+ month slip based on some > >> > > >>>> random > >> > > >>>> words in > >> > > >>>> this post. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > The designation "4004" refers to an _airframe_. Block 3S > >> > > >>>> > > refers > >> > > >>>> > > to a > >> > > >>>> > > _software configuration_. Although not all software > >> > > >>>> > > configurations are > >> > > >>>> > > compatible with all airframes, there is not a one-to-one > >> > > >>>> > > correspondence. > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > So in fact the software suite fails the first test of Ada > >> > > >>>> transportability. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> Actually, no. Aircraft 4001-4003 do not have a CIP (Common > >> > > >>>> Integrated > >> > > >>>> Processor) installed, nor do they have all of the sensors that > >> > > >>>> are > >> > > >>>> installed > >> > > >>>> in the later aircraft. Ada's good, but no software language can > >> > > >>>> compensate > >> > > >>>> for missing hardware. In other words, if you select the "print" > >> > > >>>> function in > >> > > >>>> your favorite software package, and you have no printer, only a > >> > > >>>> crazy person > >> > > >>>> (Q.E.D.) would complain about the software. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > Why thank you Mr. Garlington for helping those of us at ram > >> > > >>>> > understand > >> > > >>>> > Software, > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> You're quite Welcome. I know that some people have difficulty > >> > > >>>> using > >> > > >>>> the > >> > > >>>> Internet (e.g., being unable to locate references on the Wall > >> Street > >> > > >>>> Journal > >> > > >>>> website), but there's certainly no reason to be embarrassed > >> > > >>>> about > >> > > >>>> it. Glad > >> > > >>>> to clear up any confusion about the distinction between 4001 > >> > > >>>> (scheduled to > >> > > >>>> be delivered in May) and Block 3.0 software (scheduled to be > >> > > >>>> delivered at > >> > > >>>> the end of October). > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > You may find it helpful to read the Delaney reference > >> previously > >> > > >>>> provided: > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3S, is currently in testing at the AIL and > >> > > >>>> > > initiates > >> > > >>>> > > the sensor > >> > > >>>> > > fusion and sensor tasking key to the F-22 performance." > >> > > >>>> > > > >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3.0 software... will provide the full sensor fusion > >> and > >> > > >>>> > > weapons > >> > > >>>> > > integration for the F-22." > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > John > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> the > >> > > >>>> bridge> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> (Cross-posted to alt.non.sequitur and comp.lang.ada, since both > >> seem > >> > > >>>> to now > >> > > >>>> be relevant.) > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>>you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into > >> > > >> > >> > > >>I'm just a truck-drivin' man. > >> > > > > >> > > >we here at comp.lang.ada are a little weird, if you know what i mean > >> > > > >> > > I'm going to name my son Gargamel. > >> > > >> > SEE? > >> > >> SAW! > > > >Today, Bullwinkle stands nearly 300 feet above sea level. > > it's remarkable when such a plastic masterpiece flies away. is that why you remarked on it then?