From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,13b7917466f2d19 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-05 13:53:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr12.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Pat Rogers" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <9a575af3.0110020747.2304ce86@posting.google.com> <5ee5b646.0110022002.7ccde025@posting.google.com> <5ee5b646.0110060639.31567261@posting.google.com> <9pr6e8$aai1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <%biw7.8780$H81.3054034106@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> <5ee5b646.0110092211.a69a5f@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: GNAT and GCC 3.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.191.176.121 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr12.news.prodigy.com 1007589150 ST000 208.191.176.121 (Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:52:30 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:52:30 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: OP]QRACE[BWMQ_H]]ZN@_TDAYZOZ@GXOXZ^L\UQHWIWDUWYADNVOPCKZBL\NX_KHV^GY[KVMG^ZPNHSCZNS[^UXFJVWYXVXKBH[XRWWBBDTN@AX\JSBVH]_@T\EKJHBMZ\_WZJFNRY]YWKSPED_U^NC\HSZ\WS[KEAYI@DO@\K@BP\LD[\GTMPLDFVU]ASJM Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 21:52:30 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17478 Date: 2001-12-05T21:52:30+00:00 List-Id: "Ronald Cole" wrote in message news:m37ks1crl3.fsf@yakisoba.forte-intl.com... > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > > In article , Ronald Cole writes: > > > dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) writes: > > >> This is a fabrication. No such "threat" was made at any > > >> time to any of our customers. We are not in the business > > >> of threatening customers. This is simply a fantasy that > > >> Mr. Cole has constructed (for what reasons I do not know). > > > > > > I still have our email discussion between you, me and rms from June > > > 1997 where you clearly state that you considered having wavefront > > > sources out in the public to be so dangerious that you would seriously > > > consider not giving wavefront releases to customers who were > > > exercising their GPL rights and giving them to me. You specifically > > > used the example of Stallman getting steamed that a Linux distribution > > > released an internal version of gcc that he didn't intend for public > > > consumption to support your position. > > > > So who was the customer who was "threatened" ? RMS ? > > Read it for yourself: > > > > Specifically, Mr. Dewar said: > > "If people started distributing wavefront versions freely, then w [sic] > would probably reluctantly decide to stop making them available, since > it would be clear that their distribution was harmful. That would be > too bad for the cases where they really solve a problem." > > Since wavefronts were/are only sent to customers of ACT, it's not too > hard to figure out that this was a veiled threat to them about > exercising their right under the GPL to send me copies. IMHO the post you cite doesn't support your assertion; it is interesting that you have removed the rest of it. For example, Dewar's very next paragraph says: "But as I said, this is a very small part of our support activity anyway (sending out wavefront releases). So if we did decide to curtail the distribution of wavefront release because of problems with uncontrolled releases, then this would be nothing like "refusing to do business with people" or anything like that. it would just be a matter of balancing the needs of customers in certain situations with other needs, something we have to do all the time." Isn't this axe about ground down to nothing by now? -- --- Patrick Rogers Consulting and Training in: http://www.classwide.com Real-Time/OO Languages progers@classwide.com Hard Deadline Schedulability Analysis (281)648-3165 Software Fault Tolerance