From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-07 06:32:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsrout1.ntli.net!news.ntli.net!newspeer1-win.server.ntli.net!newsfe5-gui.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototypinglanguage) References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org><54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com> <406EB6D2.8030801@noplace.com><87d66pyw1g.fsf@insalien.org> <406EEC35.7040109@noplace.com><874qs0zvy1.fsf@insalien.org> <40714C98.90601@noplace.com><1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com> <40729B9D.30906@noplace.com> <4072E8BA.2020201@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: <4072E8BA.2020201@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 14:34:30 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.107.63.68 X-Trace: newsfe5-gui.server.ntli.net 1081344733 81.107.63.68 (Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:32:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:32:13 GMT Organization: NTL Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6810 Date: 2004-04-07T14:34:30+01:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Database apps might be a really good market. There are potentially a > *lot* of developers and it would not be hard to start catering to them. > Things like Gnade don't take billions of dollars to get into and there > are already Ada/Database interface experiences & tools on which to draw. Yeah but why go to the hassle of recompiling on X architectures when you can use Java and run the same binary on all the systems the DB runs on and lots it does not through JDBC? It might be a little slower, but IME Windows is a lot slower than Linux for many tasks and people still use Windows. I know people like the portability Java gives them and it makes sense to cut development costs by not having to maintain code for X platforms. > Go start providing an *Ada* Database that has the kinds of benefits > that Ada can provide with its ability to clearly define data. That SQL doesn't? Or OQL doesn't? > It could > ride on top of existing products, but look more Ada-ish. That's the hook > - data in the database is described just like its used in Ada rather > than looking more COBOL-ish. And once you start using it that way, it > won't be something that other languages can do as well. So it's really no use to anyone except an Ada zealot? Language interoperability is important on the desktop and in databases. > Throw on top a standard/portable GUI and you'd have a really strong > candidate for an application development language. Give the database > guys a truckload of help with their apps & maybe they get on board with > Ada because it offers them lots of leverage. Now a portable GUI would be good.