From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-10 16:23:09 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!wn52feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s52.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tmoran@acm.org Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping References: X-Newsreader: Tom's custom newsreader Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.132.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s52 1081639389 24.6.132.82 (Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:23:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:23:09 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:23:09 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6961 Date: 2004-04-10T23:23:09+00:00 List-Id: >>> But the C folks as a total have us far beat. >> Looks like that race ends in a tie. >The point is that we Ada fans are so far out-numbered >that (as Marin has been insisting for ages) we have to do >something really good, not try to compete on the turf that >they have _already_ captured. but >So, that means the employer can pay each Ada guy ten times as much as each >C guy, and still cut his cost in half, right? The economic question is not the relative numbers of C vs Ada programmers, but their cost (including search costs to find them) vs their productivity. If employers are now hiring C programmers, then their relative productivities must be overmatched by their relative costs. So we need to get the word out on productivity (as has been mentioned often), and lower the cost - including search - of Ada programmers. Perhaps to make Ada more popular we should all move to India as instructors. ;) How about every Ada programmer, whether or not he's actively looking for a job, put his resume on all the internet job search engines, so employers doing a search would see a plethora of Ada talent.