From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d17f9c8d910b90f6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:42:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:42:54 -0500 From: Wes Groleau Reply-To: groleau+news@freeshell.org Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Macintosh/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Microsoft & Ada References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.9.86.120 X-Trace: sv3-eXEsjQ01XJtRpVVIiQAGAxIfH8gz12Bial6fdAtJWUmLNwGcOBhZlcfnBT9BjVD98Pmo/zSR2p+hwrK!NG/F6xlUDnyuo/4lyF1OiXsg5TqvRJoIkg/mxybMpNYXnvny7DodzV5zsAdIJgmYrnsXhDHkrDLd!pQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.13 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3592 Date: 2004-09-11T11:42:54-05:00 List-Id: Brian May wrote: > What if, say Microsoft were to design and implement thick Win32 > bindings for functions that are not standardized in Ada? Some > examples: Win32 GUI or serial IO. > > Would this be considered a good thing or bad thing? Probably good, unless it was an attempt (and a successful one) to eliminate open source bindings and therefore other products using open source bindings. > What if there were able to implement the bindings in such a way that > they don't have to supply any source code? What if the bindings can > only be used with Microsoft's compiler? (I guess it may still be Even if Microsoft's compiler is fully validated (and I wouldn't take _their_ word for it for a second), it could still contain extensions (for example, GNAT has 'Img) that no other compiler has--and as soon as another copies it, M$ will change it. Then their bindings could be written to use such extensions.... > I think there are a number of related issues here, so I am curious > what peoples thoughts are on the matter. My thoughts are that no matter how good a Microsoft product is or seems to be, their history shows that they nearly always include some kill-the-competition feature. And rarely include enough reliability features. -- Wes Groleau Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only specification is that it should run noiselessly. -- unknown