From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: "Dennis Weldy" Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/02/17 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 326113955 References: <6at330$7uj$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us> <34D22794.1DEE0535@platinum.brooks.af.mil> <34ea25fa.2254805@newsroom.tassie.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Organization: Intergraph Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-02-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Mad Hamish wrote in message <34ea25fa.2254805@newsroom.tassie.net.au>... >On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:18:45 -0600, "Charles W. Hall" > wrote: > >>Criticizing a programmer for not knowing the internals of the operating >>system is like criticizing an automobile owner for not understanding the >>internals of the car's motor. It is not necessary for successful >>operation of the car or computer system. >> > Wrong, criticising a _programmer_ for not knowing the internals is like >criticising a racing team for not knowing the internals. I agree with the above statement, although I assume programmer was a typo and user was actually meant ;-). While it can be very difficult to get a through understanding of proprietary systems, it is still a good idea to read the OS concepts books and Internals-type books so thatnyou will have a basic understanding of whats going on. It will help you be fluent in the OS/Platform. Dennis > >>> coryb@magmacom.com wrote: >>> >>> > I don't expect programmers to learn engineering anytime soon, but >>> there >>> > is one big problem I do have with most programmers -- they are >>> ignorant of >>> > assembly code and the internals of generated code, runtime systems, >>> > operating systems, etc. >>> >>> >> >> >> >