From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: 146b77,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid146b77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Simon Wright Subject: Re: Draconian coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Date: 1999/01/19 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 434564636 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pogner.demon.co.uk:158.152.70.98 References: <369C1F31.AE5AF7EF@concentric.net> <369DDDC3.FDE09999@sea.ericsson.se> <369e309a.32671759@news.demon.co.uk> <369F1D39.64A65BC1@sea.ericsson.se> <369f81a9.31040093@news.demon.co.uk> <77ommt$9bo$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77q4p7$diu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77vk87$pv9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <77vpeu$unb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 916783292 nnrp-11:9735 NO-IDENT pogner.demon.co.uk:158.152.70.98 Organization: At Home Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.vxworks,comp.lang.java Date: 1999-01-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: dewar@gnat.com writes: > I would have fired him right away, and thought it was a huge > mistake. Yes, he was, in the sense of CMM level 1 heroes, a great > programmer, but you simply cannot tolerate this kind of hacker > mentality in an disciplined environment committed to sound software > engineering. Hmm, there are heroes and heroes! I have always understood the CMM heroes to be the ones who work all the hours God sends, in spite of total lack of assistance from their environment, to get the product built successfully. They may even be led by donkeys too, though usually it's the blind leading the blind instead[1]. That's quite a different concept from cowboy, which is what I think Robert is describing (I don't know the American for the concept, aside from 'hacker', which wouldn't apply to plumbers ..) [1] No reflection on past/present employers intended.