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From: Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional
Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of
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Date: 08 Aug 2001 20:16:41 +0100
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Attila Feher <Attila.Feher@lmf.ericsson.se> writes:

> Just one _short_ comment to this over-discussed thread: C/C++ are
> power tools.  They need professionals to work with them securely.  I
> am very sure that lame programmers can do lame things in Ada as
> well.  Point is: as you don't give a chainsaw to a debil and then
> complain about the damage... the same way one should use or make use
> of powerful languages like C and C++.  It is not the chainsaw and
> not C or C++.  It is the people using it.

I am sure that properly-written C++ code can provide a lot of the
protection that we Ada users expect.

But a lot of "professional" (what does that mean? paid? certified?
member of the ACM? competent? my friends?) people get to write in
C. And I've seen them not even use ANSI function prototypes ..

I would have thought a professional woodworker who chose to use a
circular saw without the guard wouldn't be so much professional as
foolish ..