From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: drush@zakalwe.raleigh.ibm.com Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/26 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 206086368 references: <32A4659D.347A@shef.ac.uk> <32A71BC6.2D857063@arscorp.com> organization: ISSC South Region, RTP, NC newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-26T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: *Text* from the keyboard of Tansel Ersavas: >I remember similar discussions that took place when GUIs were first >introduced. However, it didn't change the fact that GUI dominated. When >CERN fist introduced the text based ancestor of Mosaic, it didn't really >motivate any users to participate until the hyper-media concept was >introduced. BZZZZ - There were also a lot less people connected back then, too. I was there. Hypertext systems were gaining in popularity everywhere, from Apple's Hypercard to on-line help systems, to project documentation (think Web and info). I run about 90% of the time in "no-images mode" using netscrape, and I only use netscrape because the folx desigining web pages think that layout is more important than content. NS seems to be able to keep pages intelligible even without the pics. >One should also remember that text is a visual represenatation as well. Pedant. Please pick your terms then. Verbal vs pictorial? Logical vs Gestalt? Procedural vs OO? We all know the semantic tension about which we are speaking. The representation is *not* the issue. >We have nice little icons that represent letters This subject is very >deep, and would start several threads, so I'll keep quiet about it now. Thank you. >I don't think that we can justify the graphical craze in measurable >terms such as of ease of use, or or ease of learning. To quote Robert Heinlein, "If you can't measure it, it's not science." This does not mean, however, that it is worthless. I was going to comment on his final paragraph (about text, pictures, blind people, and software architecture), but untangling the good from the silly was too tiresome. bleah - david rush mailto:kumo@intercenter.net Go away.