From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: 12 Mar 2005 15:59:39 -0500 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <87is4598pm.fsf@insalien.org> <1110059861.560004@athnrd02> <422b6d49.1141887367@news.xs4all.nl> <1110266099.441421.179290@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1110332933.587110.260410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110390097.532139.43430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <422f3808$0$30165$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> <1110409958.685759.249420@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <15SdnYvJ0_x3Vq3fRVn-3Q@megapath.net> <1110522060.091940.178510@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1110556346.841594.212520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4952804.Myubg7stsI@linux1.krischik.com> <1462853.JgxLXPrZ7W@linux1.krischik.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01-e.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls4.std.com 1110661181 32588 69.38.147.31 (12 Mar 2005 20:59:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:59:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9260 comp.lang.c++:45336 comp.realtime:1387 comp.software-eng:4950 Date: 2005-03-12T15:59:39-05:00 List-Id: Martin Krischik writes: > And they havn't got 100% compliance - as the Ada compiler vendors have. And > they can indedd claim that - Ada has the ACATS test - pass the test you are > 100% compliant - fail the thest and (almost) no customer will consider your > offer. Now wait. Let's be fair. Sure, the ACATS test suite is a good thing. But no test suite can ensure 100% compliance with the language standard. Ada compilers do have bugs that are not caught by the ACATS! Having a standard compliance test suite is an advantage of ADa, but it's not a 100% guarantee of anything. (In fact, all Ada compiler vendors I know of have huge regression test suites that go way beyond ACATS.) - Bob P.S. Oops, I typed "ADa" above, instead of "Ada". I think I'll leave that typo in, just to taunt the zealots who think spelling the name of the language correctly is important. ;-) Come on folks, do you think being pedantic about ADA vs. Ada will win converts? I think it adds to the (mostly wrong) impression that Ada is all about rules and regulations for no good reason.