From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,af0c6ea85f3ed92d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.231.202 with SMTP id ti10mr18682989pbc.5.1329845110075; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:25:10 -0800 (PST) Path: wr5ni52040pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Arbitrary Sandbox Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:25:09 -0500 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <2aaee0a4-e820-4a75-bbaf-d9d09c366d2c@f5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4da4bf75-e6c9-4c17-9072-ab6f533ed93f@vd8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <203d63cf-42a9-49ef-82cd-943d77b5e438@c21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <193cr8xol0ysi.14p4cp2yxnb0r$.dlg@40tude.net> <1jleu301thnd3$.s23priwn3ajb$.dlg@40tude.net> <18o3vqsl9uy2$.a3m68cg8ysro.dlg@40tude.net> <1fkgdlidn0v80$.kjvkmk7y29vo$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: pcls6.std.com 1329845109 4861 192.74.137.71 (21 Feb 2012 17:25:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:25:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (irix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0LE04ULenyq7b0wzfxWNE8EDrc4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 2012-02-21T12:25:09-05:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > Of course there is. Do you remember the last time U_C crashed Windows or > Linux? No. But I've lost track of whether we're talking about security or bug prevention/detection. > That was my point. There is a disconnect in the designs of the hardware and > higher level languages. You said it must be so. I disagree. There is no > other reason for that than the dark ages we are living at. Nobody invests > anything in serious language, OS, hardware design. I agree with "dark ages" with respect to languages and OS, but not hardware. x86 is a mess, but it's popularity is an accident of history. People know how to design pretty-good hardware architectures -- several exist. - Bob