From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Safety of unprotected concurrent operations on constant objects Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 11:53:09 -0400 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <83ha6vuynrzs.1jk08faxb8mnl.dlg@40tude.net> <1jebi7cf92ak4.1trmstj8qi3wm.dlg@40tude.net> <1i6pyg077xlrv.vnwotzzgb0ut$.dlg@40tude.net> <10pk27v48vhcb$.1qkf6roq2yzjn$.dlg@40tude.net> <1qq0ryc8c4l2m.1driqwwiwwl02.dlg@40tude.net> <%vhcv.255737$s87.168969@fx11.iad> <1tb8my720vum2$.r9u7r03btzqm.dlg@40tude.net> <8w0te2yerch4$.1ll2fpovfkuzx.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls7.std.com 1400169187 17255 192.74.137.71 (15 May 2014 15:53:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 15:53:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (irix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:64xmYz1ZTDLW2gZX85DtKWr7DIM= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:19848 Date: 2014-05-15T11:53:09-04:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > Because inability to prove that contract X is fulfilled by a party P makes > P illegal. [*] I know that's your point of view. I haven't seen you explain why. Yeah, I know compile-time checks are good when possible. But they're not always possible (as I'm sure you know). So insisting on contracts being checked at compile time doesn't make my programs better -- it just requires me to put "--" before some of my contracts. > Unless you accept making illegal programs legal, you must not allow the > prover's power to change. Every new version of Ada has made some previously-illegal programs legal. An infinite number of them, in fact. So of course I accept making illegal programs legal. - Bob