From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: in defense of GC (was Re: How come Ada isn't more popular?) Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:12:03 -0500 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1mahvxskejxe1$.tx7bjdqyo2oj$.dlg@40tude.net> <2tfy9vgph3.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1g7m33bys8v4p.6p9cpsh3k031$.dlg@40tude.net> <14hm72xd3b0bq$.axktv523vay8$.dlg@40tude.net> <4zwt33xm4b.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1j7neot6h1udi$.14vp2aos6z9l8.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls6.std.com 1170637925 29485 192.74.137.71 (5 Feb 2007 01:12:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 01:12:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (irix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:E4tlWzDq2TXV6B269TeXNUYKFI4= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8950 Date: 2007-02-04T20:12:03-05:00 List-Id: Ray Blaak writes: > GC is one of the modern advances of computing science, period, akin to the use ^^^^^^ > of high level languages vs assembly, lexical scoping vs dynamic scoping, > strong typing vs no typing, etc. Modern? GC is many years old. > It should be used by default and turned off only in unusual situations. Agreed that it should be "on" by default. > Of course, in this group, those circumstances are probably the usual > case, what with the use of Ada for realtime and embedded programming. > > Still, given recent realtime GC algorithms, I would consider the use of GC for > any system I was responsible for, and would give it up reluctantly, only if > timing and space constraints were too tight for a given application. I've read many papers about so-called real-time GC, but I remain skeptical. - Bob