From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: 11 Mar 2005 15:48:15 -0500 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <42303F7D.9080704@mailinator.com> <1110527549.194857.300000@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1110560573.472309.14810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01-e.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls4.std.com 1110574097 5166 69.38.147.31 (11 Mar 2005 20:48:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:48:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9172 comp.lang.c++:45218 comp.realtime:1310 comp.software-eng:4878 Date: 2005-03-11T15:48:15-05:00 List-Id: "Jerry Coffin" writes: > Robert A Duff wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > If you really want to know about these languages that are being > > discussed (Ada and C++) nothing beats reading a textbook or two. > > Much as I hate to further my (undoubtedy bad) reputation for being > disagreeable, I still have to disagree. > > If you follow-up the reading with some real use, it beats reading alone > by a wide margin, at least IME. But I agree with that! Your reputation as disagreeable is ruined. ;-) On the other hand, if you do "real use" by itself, you're liable to fall into the trap of thinking that "what my compiler happens to do" is equal to "the language definition". - Bob