From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!xmission!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Dereferencing and style guides Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:49:41 -0400 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <5249ab97$0$6625$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <23baa71a-6293-452c-89de-16052a198d20@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls7.std.com 1381445381 18702 192.74.137.71 (10 Oct 2013 22:49:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 22:49:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (irix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zPzJlrypQ94J650u3cRD6hMk7ZI= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:17411 Date: 2013-10-10T18:49:41-04:00 List-Id: Adam Beneschan writes: > I can imagine that Ada might have adopted the same syntax, if only > those old keypunch machines had a ^ character on them. I thought they did. Except it looked like an up-arrow. Anyway, the solution to keyboards with missing characters is clear: see J.2. 7-bit ASCII was standard at the time. > On the other hand, I'm not sure about the idea that "making things > just one character" equates to readability. If that were true, APL > would be the most readable language around. And C would be second. Well, I didn't say everything should be one character. I said the dereference operator should be one character. So I'd say APL is a bit of a straw man here. I'm quite happy to say "end if;" where C says "}". In Ada, dereference is usually zero characters, so I'm actually arguing for MORE verbosity! Just a little more. - Bob