From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b2dc1ee691d4409b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Latest GNAT version Date: 10 Aug 2005 18:58:21 -0400 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <1123683679.695932.12540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123687721.246790.27700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <42fa1f33$0$890$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> <__6dnaeJsKTw8mffRVn-3w@megapath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls4.std.com 1123714701 32464 192.74.137.71 (10 Aug 2005 22:58:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:58:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4078 Date: 2005-08-10T18:58:21-04:00 List-Id: "Randy Brukardt" writes: > Not at all. All that is settled is that it will be called that until the > standard is published (just like the previous version was called "Ada 9X" > until it was published). At that point, the topic will be revisted. > > I think it is a mistake to use the same name before and after publication of > the standard, because in that case it is impossible to tell whether > articles, web pages, etc. are based on earlier drafts or on the final > thing -- and there typically are enough differences that it will matter. I agree ("it is a mistake to use the same name before and after..."). > Personally, I think it is a mistake to use a particular year in the name > until it is standardized, and I'll be using "Ada 200Y" in my personal > correspondence. Randy, could I persuade you to say "Ada 200X"? (And, in 10 years, "201X"?) The "X" just stands for who-knows-which-year. The "Y" leads to silly anti-Ada jokes, like "Ada -- Oy" and "Ada, Oh why?". OTOH, "Ada Ox" sounds OK to me (an ox is powerful). >... (Of course, in official documents, I'll use whatever I'm > required to do.) And, in any case, the official name of the language is and > will remain "Ada", and that's all that's needed for the general public. > (Only in places with lots of existing Ada users, like here, is it necessary > to tell the difference.) Right. What matters, of course, is when compiler writers produce implementations of Ada 200X. They are working on it even as we speak! What matters much less is which year (2005? 2006?) ISO gets around to finishing the red tape and declaring it official. That can take some time. - Bob