From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,999932ecc319322a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!panix!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advice on package design Date: 17 Mar 2005 14:10:11 -0500 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <1110212638.336123.298580@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1gbk0qx2sgzpg$.sltzfssofla8$.dlg@40tude.net> <3jok3ghqqls8$.1rrsonb8jsurt$.dlg@40tude.net> <88zllqj1min5$.fqqxis9i327d$.dlg@40tude.net> <18e9a92kz25wu$.8b965bel5vef$.dlg@40tude.net> <1dgodaruwhhwo$.1baazg490isjx.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01-e.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls4.std.com 1111086611 6009 69.38.147.31 (17 Mar 2005 19:10:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:10:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9556 Date: 2005-03-17T14:10:11-05:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > On 17 Mar 2005 09:04:26 -0500, Robert A Duff wrote: > > > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > > >> I agree with the idea, but I think that hiding should appear in a > >> declarative part. Less probably it should also qualify the thing being > >> hidden (like renames does): > > > > I don't believe in declarative parts. I think declare/begin/end > > should not be required just because I want to declare a constant > > or something. > > Disagree. I don't like the idea of something changing its meaning within > the same scope, even if that is non-existing -> exiting. I have to tolerate > this in a declarative region because probably there is no better way to do > it. But I don't want to let it leak out of the quarantine zone. I don't understand what you mean about "changing meaning". I just want to be able to write things like: for I in A'Range loop This_Component: constant T := A(I); ... several uses of This_Component end loop; without adding three extra (useless) lines of code. And we agreed that if there's another thing called This_Component, this This_Component should not hide that This_Component. The "hide" command I proposed is of dubious value, but if it were allowed, I wouldn't mind restricting it to whole procedures or something. Or not. But either way, I don't like the separation of "declarations" and "statements". - Bob