From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,20280f498071efd3 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!198.186.194.249.MISMATCH!transit3.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit4.readnews.com!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!not-for-mail From: Robert A Duff Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Software Quality in Science Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:43:29 -0500 Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Message-ID: References: <1198a288-b013-45a8-907f-7fe227e6294e@m27g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <04185bf3-f83a-4fbe-b380-c6d8aa4105e6@w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: pcls4.std.com 1265758995 25436 192.74.137.71 (9 Feb 2010 23:43:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 23:43:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (irix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OIb9KJqamlXj8TbosLfmGvJatrI= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9058 Date: 2010-02-09T18:43:29-05:00 List-Id: Jerry writes: > Here is the link in the Guardian article to the original work: > > http://www.leshatton.org/Documents/Texp_ICSE297.pdf Thanks for the link. > And this comment which addresses the use of Ada: Hmm. Looks like it fails to address Ada (or C++) due to "lack of space". I skept. > "In C, note that function prototypes were well used only around 60% of > the time and as a result, interface faults accounted for about 24% of > the total. In other words, if function prototypes were mandated in all > C functions, 24% of all serious faults would disappear. Surely that's no longer a problem in modern C!? >...The > computational scientist should not use this as an argument in favour > of C++ or Ada in which they are mandated. A large number of new > failure modes result from this action, which lack of space prohibits > further discussion here. Hmm... >...The net result of changing languages appears > to be that the overall defect density appears to be about the same, > (Hatton 1997). In other words, when a language corrects one > deficiency, it appears to add one of its own." That assertion requires evidence, and I don't see it here! - Bob