From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,fe82bd3a72926e1a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,374e3d493349dc8f X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-13 23:12:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news-peer-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!enews.sgi.com!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!newshub1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au!news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Israel Raj T Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Message-ID: References: <9q223u$lap2j$1@ID-77397.news.dfncis.de> <46vast4p1qnb0e8bt59v4e8616hacvcgtd@4ax.com> <3BC5C49F.B1386292@ao_spam_nix.de> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 06:12:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.144.2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@optushome.com.au X-Trace: news1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au 1003039947 203.164.144.2 (Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:12:27 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:12:27 EST Organization: @Home Network Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:30785 comp.lang.ada:14471 Date: 2001-10-14T06:12:27+00:00 List-Id: On Sun, 14 Oct 2001 05:50:22 GMT, Dale Stanbrough wrote: >> "A high-order language working group (HOLWG) was formed with Whitaker >> as chairman. Other representatives included Cmdr. Jack Cooper, the >> Navy representative (along with Bernie Zempolich and Robert Kahane), >> Bill Carlson of ARPA, Maj. Tom Jarrell of the Air Force, Paul Cohen of >> the Defense Communications Agency (DCA), Lt. Col. Schamber of the >> Marine Corps, and Maj. Breault of the Army." >> http://www.adapower.com/adafaq.htm >...and what was the structure of the group. Perhaps it was a committee, >perhaps Col. Whitaker had veto over all decisions (i personally don't >know). Neither do I . However, whether or not he had veto rights, in practice the committee worked by consensus ie: classic committee mode. In Whitaker's own words: "The organization and procedures of the HOLWG were up to the chairman - anything I could make work. The only reporting was to DDR&E and I made the reports. This sounds dictatorial, and to a large degree it was, but it only worked as long as I held it together. In fact, it was a consensus operation. Every formal vote that the HOLWG ever took was unanimous! That is not to say that there were not many lively discussions and opposing views, but I waited until everybody agreed on a course of action before posing a formal vote. The question was usually not "which of these is your favorite?", but "which should be the HOLWG choice?" Under those conditions, the HOLWG functioned smoothly. " http://archive.adaic.com/pol-hist/history/holwg-93/holwg-93.htm