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From: Oleg Krivosheev <kriol@fnal.gov>
Subject: Re: Fortran vs C++ vs. etc (has little to do with realtime anymore)
Date: 1997/09/18
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Date: 1997-09-18T00:00:00+00:00
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Hi,

rhawkins@iastate.edu (Rick Hawkins) writes:

> 
> In article <5ve7c6$f4m$1@info.uah.edu>,
> Dr. Krishnan Chittur <chitturk@email.uah.edu> wrote:
> 
> >Joseph M. O'Leary (NOSPAMjmoleary@earthlink.net) wrote:
> >
> >: Jeffrey Templon <templon@studbolt.physast.uga.edu> wrote in article
> >: > The fact remains (and will for some time) that many scientific
> >: programmers
> >: > are scientists FIRST and programmers SECOND.  
> >........
> >: > So one of my reasons for Fortran still being around: you can write
> >: > a reasonable program which runs reasonably efficiently just by more
> >: > or less typing in an expression of a simple algorithm.  Fortran's "mental
> >: > model" of the computer is very simple.
> 
> >Well said! ... I still have to find an environment that will allow
> >me to develop a GUI as simply as I can write Fortran Code to 
> >do calculations ... if there is one, please let me know.
> 
> yes!!!  learning c++ after not using c for ten years took some work.
> Fortran after 12 years didn't; I could sit back donw and code.

well, if you're talking about F77, yes. FYI, there are already
F90 and F95 here. I doubt you can program in F95 without
learning - just as you did with C++.

> I'm not going to knock c++; it's wonderful for where it belongs.  But
> for my fairly simple models that just need numbers pounded into
> submission, and which won't be reused, Fortran is *much* easier, if for
> no other reason than high-level I/O.  I was spending 2/3 of my time in
> c++ either writing pieces builit into fortran, or looking for libraries
> with the pieces.  I think I switched when i couldn't find a max(), and
> couldn't figure out the single example of writing a function with
> variable number of arguments (actually, i used smalltalk for a while in
> between, but that's another story).

hmm...

cannot find max() in c++?
couldn't figure how to write function with variable numbers
of arguments?

there is something wrong with your C++ installation
or with your C/C++ book.

OK