From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1mahvxskejxe1$.tx7bjdqyo2oj$.dlg@40tude.net> <2tfy9vgph3.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1g7m33bys8v4p.6p9cpsh3k031$.dlg@40tude.net> <14hm72xd3b0bq$.axktv523vay8$.dlg@40tude.net> <4zwt33xm4b.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1j7neot6h1udi$.14vp2aos6z9l8.dlg@40tude.net> <1170347180.14376.104.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1nxunq6pci4r1$.1nnigcjicppwy.dlg@40tude.net> <11g5kv93fm3ua.1p5hykfsdax5l$.dlg@40tude.net> <14ejp7cone.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1izylgl1pmcxx$.19mkg9x6p946t.dlg@40tude.net> <2nr6t5fyam.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:21:56 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UPgEST+Hw2kzIYdizQrgx5pYMMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.198.57 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1170631015 88.72.198.57 (5 Feb 2007 00:16:55 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8943 Date: 2007-02-05T00:21:56+01:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:44:17 +0100, Markus E Leypold wrote: > > I don't speak for Ada community. I bet the silent majority is rather with > you than with me. I guess the silent majority is slightly surprised about this recent flurry of off topic mails but bears it with good grace. I've noticed this: They are slow in c.l.a. to quench of OT threads (a good thing I think, but which I now want to stop abusing -- if anybody wants to continue this discussion (with me) it needs a hypothesis / subject first and another group). >> Isn't it avantgarde enough just to use Ada? >> Must everyone else in this world be a misguided moron or an evil >> propagandist? > > Huh, c.l.a is a quite tolerant group, IMO. Indeed. There are, though, people, who have at least implied that the use of C is somewhere between sheer incompetence and crime. OK, perhaps I read that wrong. I only had the impression that few are interested in the reasons why -- well, C and C++ (e.g.) are more often used than Ada -- and that there is at least a sub group which is more interested in reassuring themselves that this is due to the injustice of the world -- rather than trying to understand the factors involved. I admit -- that certainly is not the majority here, which kept their own counsel :-). Never mind: I usually like the level of competence in c.l.a., but I certainly get some strange vibration when the some issues are touched. The paragraph quoted above was unjust though. >>> You need two interfaces: Array and Weakly_Ordered. >> >> Which forced me to use tagged type all day long and all the way, where >> simply traditional array access would suffice. > > All types shall be tagged, including Boolean. I'm already out of the discussion, but my brain just started to curdle. > converge because both generics and procedures will become proper types and > values. I fail to see the reason why this so irritates you. Because your approach does not work? I'm actually less irritated the flabbergasted. Regards -- Markus