From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b30bd69fa8f63cb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-13 16:38:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: C bug of the day Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:40:06 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1054751321.434656@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <20030611114948.00000bcc._elh_@_terma_._com_> <20030611125000.000018b5._elh_@_terma_._com_> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3719.2500 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39147 Date: 2003-06-13T18:40:06-05:00 List-Id: Pascal Obry wrote in message ... > >Wesley Groleau writes: > >> I had "Janus" on a Z80 in the late 1980s. >> Janus was a subset of Ada--I don't remember >> what was missing. > >Almost everything! If my memory is right I have used a Janus Ada compiler back >in 1987. It was basically Pascal (no task, no generic, lot of bugs). It was >also impossible to build programs except very very small ones otherwise we had >a "not enough memory" error... Right. It's very hard to build a useful compiler that fit in 56K of RAM (which is what was available on CP/M). But the Z-80 was a lot more memory efficient than the 8088 was, so it could compiler bigger programs than the early PC's could (with 128K of RAM). Even the MS-DOS version (full Ada 83) has quite limited compilation sizes because of 640K doesn't go that far. (Text_IO uses about 65% of the available memory.) Cross-compiling from Windows or a Unix never had that problem, of course. It's unfortunate that so many people found the limitations of the platform to somehow be a limitation of the technology/vendor. Randy Brukardt